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  Mattcom

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 - 1:19am
Hello every body
This is my first message on the forum and i write you from France :-)
I am making some research about the RSI Mas boat in 1944.
As you know, a very well know fact is the PT-309 capture of the MAS 562 june 29th 1944.
After the fight the italian boat was drive to Bastia harbour (Corsica). There, we only know two very bad pictures.

If the combat report is well know, i am searching for many years the "possibly" intelligence report about the boat. In case of captured material this kind of report were written with many details (crew, description of the boat, paint, weapons, and sometimes pictures...).
I hope that one could have been written in this case...
By the way after many research (the is nothing in Fold 3 for example), i am unable to find where he can be (but i am not very easy with Us archives).
So, that's why i nee your help :-)
May be one of you know an american reasearcher who can help me... or may be know where this kind of report are...
Any help is very very welcome

Thanks a lot to all ! :-)

Best

Matt




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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 - 7:29pm
Hi Matt and welcome to the forum. I did not realize a MAS was captured by an American PT Boat. Thank you for sharing that information with us. Hopefully somebody in the group can help you find what you're looking for.
Dave

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 - 6:12am
No reports came up on this site but I found one fairly decent high-res photo:

https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/NH-48000/NH-48574.html



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Mattcom

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 - 9:36am
Hi
Big big thanks Jeff !

Matt


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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of TED WALTHER   Send Email To TED WALTHER Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 - 12:05pm
Matt;
Welcome! Yes MAS 562 was captured by PT 308 and PT 309, (PT 308, LT Charles Murphy Skipper/ENS Vern Peak Exec, was the lead boat with OTC LT. John Newell on board. PT 309 was trail boat LTjg Wayne Barber Skipper/LTjg William F. "Bill" Pleasants Exec),
on night of 29/30 June 1944 off the northeast coast of Elba. The action is written up in At Close Quarters by CAPT Robert J. Bulkely Jr. page 320-321, with the same photo Jeff posted. After a 10 mile gun battle one of the two MAS boats lost speed. When the PT's closed the MAS, the crew (14 Germans and RSI Italians)went over the side in a life raft, the crew included the German Naval Commander of La Spezia. The boat was on fire so PT 308 and PT 309, with their prisoners left the boat to burn and sink. An aircraft reported it still floating the next day, so PT 306 (LT Thomas Creede Skipper/LTjg Edward Goweg Exec), went out and towed it back to Bastia.
I don't know if a specific evaluation report was done on this boat. If it is in the after action report or the intelligence report, it might not be more than just a few paragraphs.
Hope this helps.
Take care,
TED




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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 - 2:26pm
I remember on the Old Defenders of America Naval Museum website for PT309 had several photos of the MAS and even some photos developed from a captured camera taken off the MAS boat that showed the German crew doing various things and resting eating etc. I may have saved some of these photos on my computer at home, When I get off work I can look through them to see if I can find any and can send them to you.
Jerry

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Mattcom

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Feb 14, 2018 - 1:19am
Hi
@ Ted : thanks a lot for this details !
@ Jerry : Thanks a lot Jerry !
I have tried to contact them after seeing this page many years ago :
http://www.icsm.it/regiamarina/ohfrankie.htm
Unfortunately, I had no answer...
I hoped to find the picture there in high resolution...
Jerry, you learn me that the PT crew also captured a camera... Fantastic !
If you find them it will be Christmas !
As you, as soon as i am back from work i will give you more detail about the capture from italian sources.

I only know two other pictures of MAS 562 - Unfortunately only in low res





Big big thanks to all !

Best

Matt


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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Feb 16, 2018 - 10:30pm
Matt,
I found several photos of the MAS Boat crew from the captured camera and a few others on the old DOANM website.. I cannot post photos any more so I will email them to Dick and maybe he will be gracious enough to post them for me.
Jerry

Jerry Gilmartin
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PHOTOS posted for Jerry - All from the old Defenders of America Naval Museum website, and these were taken from and credited to: LT Bill Pleasants photo album.

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Mattcom

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 - 12:56am
Hi Jerry
It's absolutely fantastic !!
Thanks thanks a lot !!

BEst

Matt


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Mattcom

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 - 12:56am
Hi Jerry
It's absolutely fantastic !!
Thanks thanks a lot !!

BEst

Matt


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