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 Author  Topic: REPLICA 80 foot ELCO UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Jeff D

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: May 25, 2020 - 6:46am
Yah Will for sure.

Paul mentioned that he'll be following Elco's upside down hull construction method:

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Jeff D

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Paul sent an image that shows the scale of his massive project well:

Last of the frame pics to show the 1:1 scale size of this model boat components.
That's Dan my welder guy.
Certified ISO, DNV, Lloyds, USL and Australian Standards Association.
FYI, Australian company, Austal, builds 15% of the US Navy fleet.
(high speed aluminium vessels)
I am starting on the hull longtitudinals now.
(engine bearers / hull stiffeners / scantlings)

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Will Day

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Any guess-ta-mates as to the total cost of this epic undertaking?

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Jeff D

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My guess would be "boat loads". :D

I sent him an e-mail asking.



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Hey Will, I received some excellent advice from Paul regarding your question:

Consider the basics.

Why do you want to build it ?
How much money have you got ?
How much money can you get ?

There are 2 main start points.

A ) Do you build to commercial standards ?
(USL / US Coast Guard / DNV / Lloyds)
(in Australia it is called Commercial survey)
This build allows charter -for fee or reward.
or,
B ) Build for private / recreational use only.

A) allow 2-3 million dollars
B) allow 1-2 million dollars

How do I know this ?
I don't even have to answer that......it's obvious.

You can reduce these costs a little.
(underline.....a little),
by doing most of the work yourself.
Especially in a private build, like mine.

When you build commercial, you are locked into a VERY expensive process.
VERY expensive.
Government regulations fill books.

My advice to start.
Buy a 1/35 Italeri PT109 model.
Don't glue it together.
Just stare at all the parts for ONE month.
Consider how much every part would cost to reproduce scale 1:1.
Then consider how much these parts in a WORKING vessel would cost.
Next step.
Obtain estimates (not quotes) from boat builders.
(be sitting down)

Still interested ?
Then, engage a qualified Naval Architect to draw up the plans.
You CANNOT do this yourself, no matter what field of engineering you specialize in, no matter how clever you are at CAD / CAM design.
How do I know this ?

You cannot build a rocketship unless you are a rocket scientist.

Do your research.

For example........allow AT LEAST $50,000 for a competent Naval Architect to draw up complete plans.
That's what I had to pay.
This is an 80 foot, high speed patrol boat.
This ain't no Bass boat !

FYI,
My 2 x USED engines + gearboxes......$100,000 +
Replica helm.............$1,200 (could have purchased standard helm for $90)
Check out the costs of your proposed engines / gearboxes.

Wooden build completely out of the question.
That's easy $2.5 million.
IF you could find the craftsman.

With an aluminium ( USA - aluminum ) build,
decide on Routing, Laser or Waterjet cutting components.

The list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on.....you get the picture.


LOL eh?


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Will Day

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LOL - Mind-boggling...

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Sounds like a real labor of love! The most noble of quest!


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Paul has been busy working on the 20mm, he plans on adding a propane powered firing system for those too slow in giving right of way. He is also relieved that parts of Australia are being opened up and he's able to get back to work. PT boat construction ain't cheap!:

Tangalooma Wild Dolphin Resort has opened up again, and I am working there now.
Financial relief at last !
Party bus rocking with heaps of drunk hens. (pic attached for your viewing pleasure)
Life is good again.


Paul has a great deal of respect for JFK, the man that inspired his project. He had this to say:

I have ordered crew dixie hats and one CO hat.
It is my intention to never wear the Captains hat or uniform.
I am not JFK's bootlace.
Never will be.
I will allocate the CO hat to others on board.
That is my plan.
(better build the boat first !)


Some photos of the 20mm cradle construction. He used a Toyota Landcruiser wheel hub as the base of the cradle:

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Poor guy, having to slave away in this kind of work environment:

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Stearman

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That last photograph reminds me, tell Paul, he's a braver man then I! Love the progress photos, please keep them coming.


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Jeff D

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Hah! I'll bet he's seen some stuff, especially later in the evening when the booze is flowing freely. And him being a kid in a candy store with no money.


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