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 Author  Topic: RON 27 boat 360/361
Sean Fitzgerald

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Not sure if my grandfather Alfred Hugo Wieland was on 360 or 361 but am looking for photos of him or both boats. Alice at the TN office seems to think he was on 361 as a cook and 40?? gunner. I do have his mint condition HUGE acid paper scrap book and will be sure to post photos once I can get over to my mothers house again. I noticed a lot of posts stating there are lots of photos of the 361-I wonder why. Also I understand there commander was killed on corregidor in Feb 1945 while rescuing paratroopers from the 503rd. I remember names like green, treasury, battan, corregidor, and many others, so it sound like they went everywhere. My mother also has a photo of my grandfather water skiing behind the PT somewhere. I know I have a photo that shows the 360 and 361 together on a beach with the writing "we were always together," so they must have cruised together? I would appreciate ANY photos or information on either boat as I would love to see a photo of him till I can get over and view that book again. Thank you all for letting me into your group.

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Sean - I posted one pic of the 360 and a couple of the 361 in response to your query on FaceBook.

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Sean - I posted one pic of the 360 and a couple of the 361 in response to your query on FaceBook.

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Sean Fitzgerald

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Yes Will and I appreciate it greatly. I just wondered what else was out there. And I also wondered why some people choose the 361 to build models after? Again I really appreciate it Will. I look forward to chatting again on FB.
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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of PRJM3   Send Email To PRJM3 Posted on: Mar 21, 2017 - 9:40am
Sean,

Your grandfather was on the 361 and he is listed as either Al Weiland or Cookie Weiland in the captions in my fathers photo album. Ill post some of those pictures; however it may take a few days due to current work demands. I also have an unofficial duty roster and Ill check that to see what Cookies assignment was. That duty roster is hand written on the back of an envelope containing a letter from my grandfather to my father while he was in the Pacific. I also have a rough outline my father wrote of the areas and dates of operations for the 361, and most or all of the areas you mention are on that list. They did move around a lot.

There are some inaccuracies in the history you provided in your post and Ill try to correct those where I can. I can state for a fact that the commander of the 361 was not killed at the Corregidor invasion. If that were true I wouldnt be here! The first officer of the 361 was killed at the invasion of Ft. Drum (aka, El Fraille Island (sp?) or The Concrete Battleship) just after the Corregidor invasion, and that may be what you heard of. The Ft. Drum operation was terribly inaccurately documented in the official reports, a situation I discovered in the late 80s that really bothered my father and Ray Shaffer, the RON 27 commander, when I brought it to their attention. I have pictures my father took at both Corregidor and Ft. Drum and will get to posting those eventually. Your grandfather was most likely at Ft. Drum, a rather nasty and unnecessary event that cost two lives and resulted in multiple injuries among the crews of the 361 and another PT (dont have the boat number handy).

The 359, 360 and 361 operated together very frequently and I have many pictures of those three boats, either as a group or separately. The reason that there are so many pictures of them may be that may father processed the camera film and made photographic prints in his cabin on the 361. He would make copies for crewmembers of his and other boats, and he would also process and print film provided by other boat crews. You probably have many of the same pictures that I do. The originals will have a censors stamp on the back, often with the initials VK written in the center of the stamp Vic Kodis. My fathers negatives degraded long ago and I cant always tell which of the pictures he actually took. I believe there were other boat crews that also processed and printed pictures.

Finally, Im pretty sure your grandfather didnt water ski behind the 361. My dad took great offense at the premier episode of McHales Navy when they were water skiing behind the PT. Physically impossible, he said. Then again, maybe he knew it was impossible because they tried it. I never thought to ask him. He did later enjoy McHales Navy once he got past the liberties they took concerning PT operations. Decades later a retired Admiral I worked for was greatly entertained by one of Ensign Parkers reports my father and I always made reference to: Sighted nothing; sank same.

More later,

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Sean,

Apologies, I see I misspelled your grandfather's name.

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Greetings,

My grandfather Clarence Gibson, was Quartermaster on the Coral Princess, PT-360, during 1944/45. I do not have any photographs of his boat, but do have a small photo of the crew. My grandfather is top row, third from the left. I hope this helps some here.

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SaintC


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SaintC

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Sean - I posted one pic of the 360 and a couple of the 361 in response to your query on FaceBook.

Will



Greetings Will,

Would you be so kind as to post or direct me to a photograph of PT-360? I have looked for years for information about my grandfathers service and have actually found quite little. Any information you may have on the Coral Princess and the crew would be wonderful!

Thanks!

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