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Drew Cook
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Posted on: Mar 13, 2017 - 11:15am
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So, I guess I don't stand corrected/educated...
No U.S. military-issued Walther PPs in .22 caliber, which is what I thought. |
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: Mar 13, 2017 - 11:16am
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Dick
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 Posted on: Mar 13, 2017 - 1:40pm
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I never once said, made reference to, or otherwise commented on the 1938 .22LR Walther PP ever bing issued to the military - let alone the U.S. Navy ! ! ! ! ! !
I was merely confirming the fact that .22LR PP's were in existence. to clear up the fact that they weren't and secondly to correct your comment they were no pre-War or War .22LR PPs.
Additionally: We talk about a lot of items other then PT's, even a guy named Ted goes on about special warfare boats and the likes. Just saying . . . .
The home page of this web site defines the forum discussion as:
WELCOME TO THE PT BOAT FORUM
This PT Boat Message Board has found its new home after being around in one form or another for over 15 years. This new location will continue aiding and educating visitors and members about PT boats and other related aspects of the Motor Torpedo Boat service and World War II. This forum also enjoys the discussion of small combatant boats from other countries as they also pertained to World War II.
I'm sure that if the 3-2 load out list included 50,000 rounds of .22 - somebody if not many in that squadron had some type of .22 cal guns or maybe they simply wanted to confuse the enemy if captured!
Ted - you now have THREE RED flags, hummmmmmmmm
and I'm thinking of issuing a SINGLE RED flag to Will for the original post, double hummmmmmmmms - NO- I take that back, he was simply asking a simple question about a PT fact. Thanks Will.
Take care all,
Dick . . . . 
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Jerry Gilmartin |
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Posted on: Mar 13, 2017 - 2:31pm
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I will ask Jack Duncan. Go to the source! Master Chief Gunners mate and Former TorpedoMan on PT103.
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Will Day |
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Posted on: Mar 13, 2017 - 3:09pm
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Cool, Jerry! Whew, Dick.....
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TED WALTHER
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Posted on: Mar 13, 2017 - 4:44pm
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Whew is right Will, I thought I had six red flags, three isn't so bad!
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Will Day
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Posted on: Mar 13, 2017 - 7:05pm
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I wonder if talking about Red Flags is a non-PT subject that will get us a Red Flag.
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29navy
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Posted on: Mar 14, 2017 - 6:37am
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I think I remember reading somewhere that the Navy had .22 rifles for target practice. I'm still looking for that reference.
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Will Day
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Posted on: Mar 14, 2017 - 10:42am
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Thanks, Charlie....
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Jerry Gilmartin |
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Posted on: Mar 14, 2017 - 11:00am
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I asked both Jack and CJ the same question about 22 rifles on PT Boats. Here is what they said. Jerry
Hi Jack and CJ
A few of us were discussing why did RON3-2 have an ammo allowance of 22 cal. Somebody posted your story about shooting a bunch of white parrots for food on the PT103 using two 22 cal rifles on board.. Do you remember what was the manufacturer and model of these 22 rifles? Was this a common item aboard PT boats? CJ do you have any memories of using 22 cal rifles on the PT boat?
Thanks Jerry
PS I plan to share your reply with the members of the PT Boat Forum online.
From Jack Duncan:
Oh, gosh, ¾ of a century later you asked me the brand name of the two .22 rifles we carried aboard the PT103. C’mon, Jerry, as an 18 year-old, I wasn’t the gun nut or aficionado that I became in the late 1940s when I attended a night school gunsmithing course. A .22 rifle was a .22 rifle; just meant to go hunting small game.
Beats me. They were bolt action, but where in the world did the ammo come from???? As the Torpedoman, I didn’t have to inventory guns and ammo.
At the time, I probably just assumed that all the boats came with them as standard issue in case of je ne sais quoi. The vagaries of BuShips allowances weren’t the puzzle they became much, much later in my life.
I never did inquire if any other boats carried them or even if they were left behind by some sailor. The 103 deployed first to the Galapagos Islands. I joined the crew at Tulagi. Perhaps they were issued or acquired to repel iguanas – kidding.
Jack
This is the response from CJ Willis:who was crewman aboard a 78ft Higgins, PT242
Jerry we did not have any 22 caliber rifles or hand guns on 242 while I was aboard. In our locker down below we had 4-5 carbine rifles. 4-5 Springfield Bolt action 3006 rifles, 4 - 45 cal Tommy guns, 4-5 45 cal pistols, dozen or so hand grenades. We may have had some other small arms in the locker but I can't recall any but I am sure we did not have any 22 cal guns because I grew up on the farm hunting rabbits, squirrels, possums, skunks etc with a single shot bolt action 22 rifle. I was very familiar with 22 rifles before I went into the Navy.
CJ
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