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 Author  Topic: Would boats fly their flag on night patrol?
David Waples

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I have a question for you all. I'm wondering if the crews would fly the flag on night patrol? I certainly see it during the day but don't have any references for evening operations.
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CJ Willis

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David: We never took our flag down day or night. It was up until the wind whipped the stripes down to about 6 inches long from the blue field then we would replace the flag. I brought home one of these flags from 242. It's in the museum in Boston.

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Drew Cook

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C.J.,

Did you fly the flag from the flagstaff on the stern, or the mast behind the cockpit?


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CJ Willis

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We flew it from the radar mast just under the ball..

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David Waples

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CJ,
That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks so much.
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Any chance you recall what size the flag was? Did you fly 5x9 foot ensigns?

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Size 11 was used (2.37 x 4.50)


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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Before he took his "last patrol", I spoke to our Maury Hooper of PT238 Higgins RON 20 and he said they flew their flag from the radio antenna. They flew the largest size flag they could to avoid being mistaken as a Japanese boat by our illustrious fighter pilots. Several "friendly fire" incidents involving PT Boats happened during the war in the Pacific. Here is a photo showing the flag flying from the radio antenna. I don't know what size it was but it was much larger than what could be flown from the radar mast, This is the same reason the crews would paint a large white US Star on the decks so you could see it from the air. This may have only been something that was done on the Higgins boats, since the Elco radar mast was mounted up higher on top of the Day Room canopy and presented less of an obstacle to vision for the skipper at the helm than did the flag mounted on the Higgins Radar mast.
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Yeah, I have pictures of the 247 boat, among others, with the flag flying at night.

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Drew Cook

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Jerry,

Great shots of 78' Higgins PTs at sea "in the forward area." Thanks for posting them!


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