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  TED WALTHER

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As Dave notes, interest and $ are the key. Even if a 12 inch piece of her original keel can be recovered and scabbed into a new keel/new hull, this construction is officially considered a historical restoration. However, there is only two places that can generate the kind of $ required for that, and as of this date, they have not done anything, simply because, the funds are needed elsewhere.
Take care,
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  TED WALTHER

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But it is most likely all that might happen is just that 12 inch piece finding its way to a display case somewhere. Providing, there is even anything still there, unless somebody gets in the water, we will never know.
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Ahh

Now Ted I think that you have hit the nail cleanly on the head unless someone "gets in the water" as you said and finds a piece of her then,

A. That piece cannot be displayed

and

B. Once the $ line up with the interest then that piece can then form the centre of a restoration.

So without the interest of this board and other like minded people then in time the Boats would disappear, what a sad end that would be!

Photos and movies are great ways to remember history but if you have a chance to walk were these men walked and stand on the deck of their fighting vessel then that as far as I am concerned gets you as close as one can to those times, having been in the south pacific and walked through the old base areas,and watched the sun go down over the islands knowing that the men of the PT Boats saw the same sights, well all one needed was an Elco /Higgens with those V12 engines.

You get the idea.

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can someone please upload a picture from google earth specifically highlighting where pt-59 was seen in 2004?
I have been looking and cant determine what in the picture is the 59 boat.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ju2C0YQNNU
is this the wreck that the person is standing by?



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What worries me is that in 2012 it seems they carried out a large cleanup operation in that area, im hoping the 59 wasn't trashed.
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I agree that the changing tide had a lot to do with it, as well as the fact that she might be sinking into the mud more and more over time.
I went to historic aerials and looked at the photos, indeed 59 was there in 74, 80, disappeared for a while, returns somewhat in 2004, and then disappears again.


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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Shipmates,
If you guys want to see a real PT Boat all you have to do is come to Portland or New Orleans or Fall River or Fredericksburg or Port Clinton and you wont even have to go wading in hip deep mud! Maybe we all need to step back and take a reality check here guys. If you want to see a real 77 foot Elco, you could go see PT48 up in Kingston NY. It is hard to fathom this much effort being considered over what will most likely amount to a few rotten pieces of keel.
Sorry I had to let it all out.
Jerry

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Even still, anything left would still be a good piece for a museum or something, who knows, maybe if just started digging, ole pt-59 would surprise us somewhat.
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Hi Jerry,

While I think those that can will make every effort to visit the PT 658 when we can I also think that any find of a PT Boat that had been lost is worth a little discussion, only a little mind you, as to your reality check while I would like to visit the 48 Boat the prime object would be to assist in getting her restored however, the currant owners price tag of $500,000.00 for a boat that was a gift to him so that he could restore it is a little high, also a discussion that seems to have stalled appears to have put her out of the game so to speak.

Pretty high starting price for a few pieces of timber what! ( history aside)

This is probably why the 59 Boat has received so much interest being that if there is any chance that a Elco 77' boat or parts thereof could become a basis for a restoration then for a lot less cost parts of her could be obtained for a lot less than say $500,000.00.( maybe)

That she will become the basis for a restoration is highly unlikely unless of course,

the planets align,

we all learn to breath underwater,

man flies without wings,

the green house effect is reversed,

O and maybe if one of us finds an extra few million in a back pocket somewhere !!!

but it's still interesting to see if anything of her remains.

On that I am indeed interested.

Have a good night Jerry,

Dave.

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