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Jeff D

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Thanks Ted, I caught the 21 but missed that one. Fixed it.



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Drew Cook

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Jeff,

Thanks for posting those.

The 80' Elco twin-.50 starboard turret color shot (80-G-K-1300/80-G-K-13627) is of the 107.

Makes me wonder if all the other series of shots of the 107 I've seen (posted in black & white), taken at the same time, were in color, too. The twin-.50 turret shot you posted is the only one I've seen in the series in both color and b&w.


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Jeff D

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You're welcome Drew, I thought I'd save others time in sorting through many pages of search results. Hopefully I found most PT images...

Nice catch on the 107! I recognize those faces, I've stared at the other 107 images on Gene's site long enough. Usually the G-K series are color but I don't know if that's a rule. The G-K shot of Kelly I posted earlier is B&W... http://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/80-G-K-01000/80-G-K-1279.html.



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Yep...I've seen the two shots of Kelly in the 156's cockpit posted in color, also.


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Not many since last update but they're interesting. Can anyone positively ID the boats on the USS Atascosa?:

PT 132
Title: UA 486.13 David A. Dhonau Collection (PT-132)
Caption: Collection Photo # UA 486.13.01 Crew of MTB 132 Finschhafen, New Guinea, Sept - Oct 1943
Description: Crew of MTB 132 Finschhafen, New Guinea, Sept - Oct 1943: (Left to Right) Albert La Bore, Tower City, Pennsylvania - gunner; F. Thomason, Los Angeles, California - quartermaster; C.D. Cripps, Cedar City, Utah - radioman; Harvey H. Dhonau, Cincinnati, Ohio - quartermaster; John Fry, New York City, New York - machinist; H.P. Hurlock, Houston, Texas - machinist; O.D. Starkey, Houston, Texas - cook; R.L. Manning, Arkansas - torpedo man; Lt. Francis H. McAdoo, 333 E. 57th St, New York City - skipper; Wilbur Smith, Rudolph, Ohio - machinist
http://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/alphabetical---donations0/d/ua-486-13-david-a--dhonau-collection.html

Title: USS Atascosa (AO-66)
Description: Starboard quarter view of USS Atascosa (AO-66) underway in light load condition with camouflaged PT boats as deck cargo fore and aft off the Norfolk Navy Yard, Portsmouth, VA, on 14 March 1943. She was the former S.S. Esso Columbia.
http://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nara-series/19-n/19-N-40000/19-n-43373.html

Title: USS Atascosa (AO-66)
Description: Starboard bow view of USS Atascosa (AO-66) underway in light load condition with camouflaged PT boats as deck cargo fore and aft off the Norfolk Navy Yard, Portsmouth, VA, on 14 March 1943. She was the former S.S. Esso Columbia. Note the lines at her bow. She seems to be streaming paravanes.
http://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nara-series/19-n/19-N-40000/19-n-43374.html

I sorted out the previous posts and made a page with the boats in numerical order: http://www.pt103.com/PT_Boat_Photos.html. If anyone can ID boats not in the numerical list I'd appreciate it if you let me know.



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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Hi Jeff,
The photo 80-G-53793 of the boat under a camo net if you enlarge it and look to the right through the foliage, (between the tree trunks) you can clearly discern the block numbers "3" and "2" painted on the side of the bulwark next to the bridge. I suspect this is PT132.
Just an educated guess.
Jerry

Jerry Gilmartin
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  TED WALTHER

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Jeff;
Nice photos! I blew up the USS Atascosa photos, in the starboard quarter view the boat closest to the camera is PT 174 on charthouse, with no 40mm forward, but it looks like 164 on cockpit shielding(PT 164 was a SCR-517 boat so we know this is 174). The boat inboard is PT 168 . In the other photo, the boat forward starboard side boat is PT 171 and the boat with beehive radar (SCR 517) on portside forward is PT 167.
Take care,
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Good eye Jerry, thank you! Looks like it to me too, and the horn on the chart house roof makes it a 138 or earlier:



This Morobe one is supposed to be the 132 also, with the 68 and an Elco 80 on the far side of the river. Taken in early 1943:
http://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/80-G-53000/80-G-53846.html

Most excellent, thank you Ted! I changed the page to reflect you two's IDs.



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I like the striped canvas gun covers!


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Jeff D

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Such a nightmare to discern details in photos of boats with that camo Andy! Even with larger images... I also notice they labeled the stern shot as being from the forward quarter.

Ted caught a few more errors:
The photo of PT 62 is actually not, the 20mm magazine is just from PT 62. The boat they are on is a 80' ELCO.
http://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/80-G-K-13000/80-G-K-13626.html

Based on the hardware I'd put it between PT 160 and 186.

Another:
80-G-453471 PT-601, July 1945. is not PT 601, it's some other earlier boat off New Guinea of P.I. PT 601 was in RON 41, they never left the states.
http://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/80-G-453000/80-G-453471.html

And finally:
That is not PT 65 its really PT 59 and that is Jack Searles on the bow(blond guy in Khakis). He was the one who sunk this sub on 9 December 1942, while on patrol with Frank Freeland in PT 44. I enlarged the photo and I don't know if its the lighting, crappy paint, grease or what on the 59 because it sort of does look like 65, but 65 was in RON 5 and came out to Tulagi later in the spring of 1943. PT 65 was in Panama when this photo was taken.
http://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/SC-243000/SC-243966.html

Once again thank you Ted!



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