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 Author  Topic: My PT-109 redo reveal
David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Apr 19, 2015 - 10:49am
Greetings all.
It was painful but I'm glad I went through with it. Since the original build of this model more details came to my attention. I'll walk you through the changes but let's start with the original build I finished back in 2010? Where's the time gone!

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Here are the photos of the completed build. Put a fork in it! Im done!! :-)

I took a lot of grief over the ropes holding the temporary mount of the 37mm. Former sailors told me that the tie down of the rope was all wrong. Ready later the tie down was described as similar to how canons were secured to old sailing ships. You can also see that I've relocated the depth charges to the proper location and the toe rail was removed and deck repaired. Finally the armor plate was secured to the front of the bridge and I improved the wind screen detail.
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Here you can see I added the lower stabilizer bar for the torpedo tube mount. You can also make out some of the added detail on the starboard side of the cockpit. I also fixed the LUX pull on the side of the Day Cabin changing it from square to round.
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Here you can see the cockpit detail a little better on the starboard side.

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Some more shots.

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Here you can see I corrected the forward starboard side window of the Day Cabin below the hatch which should match the two on the forward side of the cockpit.
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Side by side comparisons of the 109 and the Out Of The Box model.

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Thanks for looking!
Dave



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Roy Forbes

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She looks great Dave. All those changes were well worth the work and I know you sleep better at night knowing they are done. Been there. Well ever since November my 109 has been sitting on the desk in various stages of completion as I push it from side to side while working on the newest drone. However, if all goes well, she will hit the paint shop this week and be ready to join the reunion fleet that is slowly, very slowly gathering. Gosh I love that cradle and mounting board. They are a work of art in themselves.


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  TED WALTHER

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Nice Dave! Great Job!!
Here is a diorama I just found, that might have a few thinking here.

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=37128
Take care,
TED


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Drew Cook

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Nice, Dave.

So...the 115's smoke generator nozzle originally faced to starboard, instead of to port?

Wonder why the difference?


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Michael Vorrasi

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Hi Drew, I am fairly certain that the smoke generator tank could be placed in the rack and strapped down in either direction, so the nozzle direction is entirely a random thing, based on who last strapped the tank in.

Mike


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Michael Vorrasi

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Hi David, was reading about how you re-arranged the ropes for the 37MM gun. This got me thinking. Did the 109 crew really expect that the gun would be fired in such a lashed down temporary state? I have read that they got the gun that day and merely lashed it down as deck cargo, basically to keep it from being swiped if left ashore while they were off on the mission.( Apparently scroungers were in plentiful supply in the South Pacific.) OTOH, Barney Ross was reportedly manning the gun to fire it. Would those ropes really hold back that recoil, and would not the spades on each arm of the gun carriage (designed to dig into dirt) actually tear up the deck if fired? Just wondering what others think.

Mike

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Stuart Hurley

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Nice, Dave.

So...the 115's smoke generator nozzle originally faced to starboard, instead of to port?

Wonder why the difference?




Drew,
To be fair, the Revell instructions would have you place it that way IIRC.

Mike, IMHO, Unless those ropes were really tight, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that gun if fired on the deck in that configuration. Probably the safest place would be in front!

Nice plinth Dave.

Best Regards,
Stu.





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Stuart Hurley

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Quote:

Nice, Dave.

So...the 115's smoke generator nozzle originally faced to starboard, instead of to port?

Wonder why the difference?




Drew,
To be fair, the Revell instructions would have you place it that way IIRC.

Nice plinth Dave.

Whoops, must have had a bit of ' double clickiness' on this one, perhaps I need a drink.

Best Regards,
Stu.





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Drew Cook

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Dave, Mike and Stu,

Certainly aware of the fact that the smoke generators on the 80' Elcos could be strapped in either way, its just that the large majority of vintage photos I've seen show the secured generator's nozzle to port, which seemed to be the preferred or standard installation of that piece of gear on those boats.


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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Apr 21, 2015 - 9:01pm
Quote:

Nice, Dave.

So...the 115's smoke generator nozzle originally faced to starboard, instead of to port?

Wonder why the difference?





For the record I put it on backward by accident. The only photo I have of the 115 shows the nozzle pointing straight back but that was later on after radar was added. You got me Drew. :-)
Dave

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