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Jeff D
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 Posted on: Nov 19, 2014 - 3:14am
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Yes David, it is certainly art.
I wonder if they ever made planks out of palm logs.
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David Buck
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Posted on: Nov 19, 2014 - 3:20am
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Hi Ted,
Here is the section from the book I have been referring to:
"Finding a surplus 37mm antitank gun, he (Kennedy) asked whether he might have it and, returning to Lumbari, announced to his astonished crew that he wished them to secure it to the forward deck.
This was no easy matter, and it also entailed removing the regulation life raft. Though the crew managed to bolt the wheels of the cannon down to the deck, the legs presented more of a problem, since they had to absorb the guns powerful recoil. In the end it was decided to tie them temporarily to two huge lengths of coconut tree and lash these timbers to the deck with rope, much as Nelson's cannons had been secured.
By the morning of August 1,1943, the work was done. In addition to its torpedos, PT 109 could now claim to be a gunboat of sorts."
After reading this section through there appears to be a number of things that assist us with the securing of the gun, also that while the legs of the gun presented a problem a temporary fix was found, however LT. Kennedy fully intended that the gun be ready to fire if needed other wise why would he have need of Barney Ross offered as it was the position of gunnery officer for the 37mm.
The above section that I have taken from the book does not have any one specific person named as quoted however the front notes of the book state that, the book is written from notes, published letters and documents as well as over two thousand interviews.
If you are wondering about the book I am referring to it is,
JFK life and death of an American President, Volume One: Reckless Youth.
Author Nigel Hamilton.
Good read with lots of lnteresting bits and pieces on Lt. Kennedys war time service.
One could say that the author has a fair handle on his subject and if one were to require a little clarification of a certain point then he would probably welcome the inquiry.
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: Nov 19, 2014 - 2:04pm
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Interesting stuff, for sure, but...My memories of the "Reckless Youth" book was that it was pretty much a hatchet job on JFK, and the made-for-TV-movie of it was particularly awful in regards to the PT 109 incident -- very lame.
I've always wondered about the wheels-on-or-off question regarding the 37 mm on the foredeck, too, but, having to go with one setup or the other, I'd stick with the last well-documented source, the Donovan book, which had it with the wheels (tires and rims) removed.
It certainly wouldn't take long to unbolt the five nuts on each of the wheel hubs and remove the tires/rims, and to me, it would make sense to swing the lower armor plate section (which was to protect the gun crew against low, or "skipping" counter-battery fire) forward -- flat -- and rest the gun on the plate, bolting the axles to the 2'' x 8" planks, Any-hoo, that's the setup I've always envisioned -- with maybe a coconut log crossways against the trail leg spades.
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Will Day
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Posted on: Nov 19, 2014 - 3:53pm
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Yeah, Drew. Your way is a good as any, and a hell of a lot better than some of the modeling setups we've seen.
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David Waples
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Posted on: Nov 19, 2014 - 8:52pm
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A quick update. Tonight I added some decal rivets to the wind screen along with the framing. Prior to doing that I applied a thin coat of Future so the decals would lay down nice. The framing needs to be trimmed once it dries. I'll probably get around to it this weekend. You can see the armor plate primed and in place as well. Final touch was to shave down the windscreen between the frames just a little to give it that sagged look. Definitely an improvement over the photo etch window framing I think. Finally I mixed up some paint to match my original color.
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David Waples
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Posted on: Dec 3, 2014 - 8:45pm
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In for a penny.....
Looking at a photo Jeff sent to me I decided to go ahead and frame out the cockpit starboard side wall. You can also see the vent I added to the starboard spray shield. Ah yes, more to paint. You can also catch where I blacked out the windows. I'll need to tone those down just a little. Pure black is just a little too much. Finally you can see the lower tube stabilizer bars I installed.
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ducati650
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Posted on: Dec 4, 2014 - 3:23pm
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Always in awe of your work.
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David Waples
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Posted on: Dec 9, 2014 - 8:23pm
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Thanks Ed!
Okay, I decided I needed to add the eyebrows over the windows. I've glued them in place and will brush paint them tomorrow. It will probably take a couple of coats. While I was at it I decided to fix the LUX pull. It was square before and I've converted it to being round.
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: Dec 11, 2014 - 7:04pm
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Looking good, Dave...again!
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zeusbheld
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Posted on: Dec 13, 2014 - 8:24pm
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Jeff D: "I wonder if they ever made planks out of palm logs. "
They'd have had the shop tools available, so can't see why not. It certainly happens now. Here in Thailand palm planks are a flooring option. Looks rather nice due to the two-tone grain.
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