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 Author  Topic: Italeri 1/35 PT109 The Final Days
Ultimate Shield

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Oct 17, 2014 - 4:17am
Thanks Jeff and Dave
Ah, I see what you mean now.
And I agree about the look of the early PT mast, one of my favorite bits. I was hoping to still have it there, just in the stowed position. It may be possible to actually have it just sitting there as a removable detail. Another reason for my thinking it might still be there was its simply hard to see in the stowed position and the lack of a life raft on the 109. The mast being in the way would have made at least a half assed excuse for not having one on top the cart house, at least in my mind. Wonder why she ultimately went out without one if there was free space available on the roof.

Given the lack of both searchlights to signal one another and masts to raise flags, how did these guys easily ID one another at night as friendly's without a high chance of blowing one another out of the water accidentally?


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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Oct 17, 2014 - 5:23am
Hey, it's your model! Not many outside of us nit-pickers will know about the mast. Good idea about making it removable, especially if you plan to enter it into a contest.

The boats also carried a hand held Aldis light for signalling. I've no clue as to how often they signalled each other though, I'm just a mechanic.



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I don't know if you have the Ballard book with the dust jacket but it's a little more clear than printing on the computer. I just don't see it and even in this picture it seems like you should be able to see a fixture that large.

My opinion is that it was useless and in the way so they took it off. The 109 wasn't the only boat that did that. t remember asking Mr. Keresey, skipper of PT-105 about this and he just didn't remember or think too much about the mast. He told me it could have been folded down. He did keep it on his boat until the radar mast was added.

I think we all want to see that mast. It's a defining fixture of these early 80' Elco's. It just doesn't seem to be there.
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once you get away from the Islands then the water turns a deep rich blue not green,



This is very true, but if the South Pacific's anything like Southeast Asia, it depends on the weather. A lot. Green-grey from the surface when overcast.


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[URL=http://s183.photobucket.com/user/willday6/media/PT-191PENNINGTON05_zpsbbe2a5e7.jpg.html][/URL]

Pennington's 191 dio has some of the best water I have seen....

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How did he do that water?

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I agree...that's probably the best-modeled depiction of a boat in shallow water -- or any water -- I've ever seen...

Reminds me of looking over the side of one of my Dad's work boats at the dock at the old Yacht Haven on St. Thomas...could see clear to the bottom just five or six feet below, when there was no surge and the water was clear...


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Beats me how he did it. I think that must be a clear rod coming out of the hull. There are about twenty photos, I think on the DETAIL AND SCALE site.

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When you look at the rest of the photos, you almost wonder if it could somehow be real water (except for the hull activity).

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That is probably the best looking water I have seen.
Here is another from the Viet Nam era that is also very convincing:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/156055.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1

Nice job lads!


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@ Drew: The complete set of photos are on Rory Pennington's FB site under "Timeline Photos".

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