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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Oct 18, 2014 - 8:24pm
The fishing was great today. Beautiful weather and respectable action, especially for this time of the year. Low clear water and spooky fish.

Waiting for me when I got home was the JFK Reckless Youth book. After dinner I sat down and started reading. I got to the part about the 37mm being secured to the deck. The first thing I noticed was that unlike much of the book this part was not quoted. It is not credited to Barney Ross either based on the index and the author's notes. It's not credited to anyone in the notes section.

Barney Ross is quote on the next page. He states that he volunteered to go along with the 109. Kennedy told him to come along since he was short on crew. Anyway, Barney Ross states that he volunteered to go along. He commented on "this contraption" meaning the 37mm and that it still had its wheels on it. He only said that the base carpenters had secured it to the deck so that it wouldn't roll around.

The author quotes crewman Harris as saying that they used two of the coconut logs that were used to brace the legs. In my opinion how the gun was secured continues to be unknown except that according to Barney Ross' recollection it still had its wheels intact and the base carpenters had secured it somehow. There were also coconut logs used for bracing the legs but how that is done is still not known.

Another surprise to me was that Barney Ross recollects the 109 being lit up by search lights. They thought it was from shore batteries but it was probably the destroyer.

The book is interesting in that there are a lot of quotes from people who were there. And they do provide some details that are interesting.

Thanks David for suggesting the book.

Dave

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TED WALTHER

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Will;
Now 9 and counting! by the way Dave, you didn't mention what kind of fish you caught?
Take care,
TED


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Will Day

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Roger that, Bubba....

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  David Waples

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Quote:

Will;
Now 9 and counting! by the way Dave, you didn't mention what kind of fish you caught?
Take care,
TED





GPS coordinates of initial put in: N40 deg 41.298' W105 deg 19.055'
River: Cache La Poudre (Trivia: Named by the French who stored gun powder there)
Water conditions: Crystal clear
Method of fishing: Wading
River volume: Approx. 150 cfs
Weather clear and sunny all day. Temperature at put in 40 degrees at 09:00 and 70 degrees at 17:00 when departing.
No contact with enemy fishermen but there were alcoholics who were identified as wearing blaze orange clothing and carrying rifles.

The fish caught were as listed below, the majority of which were Brown Trout. All fish were returned to the river.

Brown Trout: Not a stocked fish in this river.
Brown Trout color: Camouflaged with shades of green, brown, and black with some red.
Size: 11" to 13"

Rainbow Trout: Stocked fish in this river.
Color: Similar to the brown except lighter in color with red stripe down the side.
Size: 11" to 12"

Total quantity of fish not documented but approx 12 catches and approx 6 missed strikes.
Flies used: PMX size 12 with bead head prince or bead head pheasant tail size 16.

No photos were taken of these fish

Ah... that was fun. :-)

Dave

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  TED WALTHER

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Ahh! Rainbow Trout....NICE!!


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Will Day

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Last time I fished for rainbows was at Clear Lake in the High Sierras. Toooo long ago.

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David Buck

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Dave glad to hear that you enjoyed your fishing.

Sometimes it's just good to get out of the house, away from the computer and get a bit of fresh air!

The book JFK The Restless Youth does show that there is a lot more information available than just the snippets that are in Donovans book, this brings up other questions that have not yet been answered such as, a lot has been made of the Japanese wreck on Naru Isl. does anyone have any idea how it came to be there?

It has been said that the Australian coastwatcher saw the PT 109 floating in Blackett Straight, lost sight of it while he moved his base camp and when he reestablished himself reported the wreck south of Naru Isl. It has been said that in the 2 days it took him to move the 109 sank and the Jap vessel arrived on Naru Isl.(quite possible ) no one has said were from or how it got there. The vessel that the two islanders removed the two rifles from was definitely a Jap barge/ patrol boat, however one would think if they had been able to climb aboard then there would have been enough of it for the coatswatcher to see well before he setup his new camp, also unless it had run aground (quite possible)there seems to have been very little action in that area over those two days

What became of the report from the two New Zealand Pilots that were sent out to find the wreck found a? wreck overflew it and filed a report on their return. This report would tell us which wreck they had seen and where it was seen by them?

There is a lot to this that we will never know but there is also much that could be found that could shed a little more light on the story.

By the way Dave I am glad that you itemised your story on the time you spent fishing, makes it so much easer to use this in "Tales of Daves fishing days" a story from the past, published in 50-60 years from now.

I'm quite sure someone will manage to get it mixed up even then!!

Have a good day Dave.


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  David Waples

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Glad you appreciate the fishing trip humor David. Sometimes you just have to poke fun at yourself. :-)
Dave

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Dave W. , I'm so jealous. I fished in RMNP once. It was wonderful.


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Will Day

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Will Day   Send Email To Will Day Posted on: Oct 20, 2014 - 10:38pm
Oh yeah, Al - It IS oxymoronic....

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