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 Author  Topic: PT490 1/35th Italieri conversion build
Kornbeef

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Jun 27, 2013 - 4:50am
Hi all, a PT modelling newb here
I'm currently building the Italieri 1/35th PT-596 kit but building it as a slightly earlier variant. I'd planned a pretty much OOB build but things got rather out of hand

I must admit I didn't realise there were so many differences till the razor saw was out and blood had been spilt. Just got to work out how to post pics so bear with me if it goes awry.

David Waples has been a big help already helping me decide which boat to do and offer advice.

[URL=http://s35.photobucket.com/user/kornbeef/media/PT-490/PT49003_zps1c4bab75.jpg.html][IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/PT-490/PT49003_zps1c4bab75.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Just the first attempt to post a pic, it's the Bronco 40MM and the first of the mods to the engine room top deck (please forgive any mis-naming of parts, I normally do WW1 A/c in 1/32 scale recently.

I've other pics but want to ensure this works first.(any help would be appreciated here too)

Of course I'll be begging information and some far more expert knowledge than mine on my way.
Current biggest head ache is what's actually in the wheelhouse area. It would appear there is no armour behind the wheel area from what pics I've scrounged but I'd like a clearer idea of what else in the way of equipment ect is missing from the kit.

Keith

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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Jun 27, 2013 - 4:58am
Hi Keith,
Welcome! First let me help you with posting the image. Using the sharing method you selected you need to make the following changes...
1. Delete the string up to [IMG]
2. Change the [IMG] at the beginning of the string to
4. Delete the [/URL] from the end of the string.

That's the hard way... the easier way from photobucket is to use the HTML coding from the sharing options. No editing is required. It's just a very long string of code. That's what I've been using lately.

Back to the 40mm. The Bronco kit looks very nice. Did you decide on the 490 boat? I couldn't remember??? The only thing that comes to mind looking at her is that I don't know if you need the round pad under the 40mm mount. The photos I've seen have the base mounted directly to the deck or to a rectangular pad which seems to be different on different boats. Unless you have some photo references that show otherwise I would go with a recantular pad.

Here's your photo after I made the corrections.
Dave




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Kornbeef

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Jun 27, 2013 - 5:59am
Hi David, Yes I went for the 490, maybe not the easiest option looking back but that's me.

The Bofors mounting is something of a mystery yes. On that pic you sent of her at sea to me theres a deffinate circular base but the whole gun assembly seems lower. I'm sort of at a quandary of how its mounted other than that. The standard mounting with the kit and accessory set seem way too tall but it may be perspective issues.

What I did notice was the height difference of the decking over the engine room, it actually appears to taper down towards the rear possibly because the stern kicks up. Mine doe but it starts after that point....grrr. Now having split the hull from the deck twice already I decided to not notice so much.

Honestly there are a lot of differences between the 596 kit and the mid range boats and modding the 109 kit up would likely have been easier apart from the torpedo arrangement of course, not that that appears right anyway from what I see.

It's fun... spent 2 days fiddling with the spray shield for the rear turret before I noticed 490 hasn't one.... expletives ensued I can say. laughs.

I knew there was an issue with how to post pics so TY so much for your swift response and I'll post further pics correctly I hope, 1 at a time at first... I don't yet have edit abilities so my Faux pas has to stand for now.

Cheers Keith

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Kornbeef

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Jun 27, 2013 - 6:26am
Okay, here is another attempt to post.
One shot if this works I'll post more later.
photo
So nothing is firmly fixed, all are sub assemblies still. Due to the mods to the side windows I see the chartroom walls need bracing a little.

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Ray Wilbur

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Jun 27, 2013 - 9:03am
You might want to get in touch with Ed Casacia. He did the 495 not too long ago.

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Kornbeef

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Jun 27, 2013 - 1:03pm
Ed's build of 495 was one that inspired me,

Here's the pic that I've used to attempt to interperate 490 to the best if my limited knowledge.
 photo PT490wMac_zpsf43e5d58.jpg

I'd spent 2 days working on the spray shields for the rear turret before realising she didn't have them fitted at this point at least. Also that the guard rail appears to have a section removed. The Engine decking is taller on this too compared to the kit. Lots of small details can be gleaned, not so good for the AMS afflicted like me. LOL

The Wheel house and chart room.
All very much WIP and if anyone see's any glaring errors or has advice please shout up.
 photo PT49012_zps475c9b46.jpg
 photo PT49011_zpscc5900fb.jpg
 photo PT49010_zps682ecd8f.jpg
Looking at the 190 kit David and others are working on I now realise perhaps that would have been a better place to start. I'm having to scratch a lot of things that appear to be in that kit.
So a few of the mods I've done so far,
Lowering the side charthouse windows, opening the charthouse front windows (that was fun...) scratching the antenna base and the lamp mount on the left of the wheelhouse, adding ventilation intakes etc and modding the controls. I'm sure the charthouse door needs the window added but. I'd really appreciate some detail of what else is installed within the open wheelhouse. I see junction boxes cables etc but not in enough clarity to scratch them.

The lip of the wheel house is all wrong and has taken some thought, I've a upper panel to add once I get the instrumentation and controls done.

Main Hull and details
 photo PT49009_zps4f065120.jpg
 photo PT49015_zpse0d8931c.jpg

I'm suspicious that the large door on the rear of the day room may be wrong but I can't upto now verify that. I changed the mast mounting area, I've leant the dayroom forwards added the better detailed mast rest from the accessory set.

 photo PT49014_zps9abbab05.jpg
 photo DSCN0016_zps4cf584a7.jpg
one or two shots of bits I'm attempting to detail a little more. Dissecting the mast to add the openings was fun. I need to finish the upper part and add some bolt details and cable routes once I'm closer to working out what runs where.

So that's where she is right now. lots of other small detailed bits in progress, jumping around this build like a spring hare.

Any critique or advice is always more than welcome.
Thanks Keith

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Jerry Beasley

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Keith,
Could you please drop me an email at jgbeas@comcast.net as I have a question on how you did something that I am starting to work on and would like the benefit of your experience.
Thanks

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Kornbeef

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Jerry, email sent. yell if you don't get it.

Keith

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Really nice work. You are doing a great job. It looks like you are doing a better job than I did on the 495 boat. I'm looking forward to following your progress. If I can be of any assistance, please let me know. Here is a link to some Ron 33 photos I collected.
http://s1110.photobucket.com/user/ducati650/library/PT%20Squadron%2033


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  Kornbeef01

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Hi all... it's me. had my PC rebuilt and lost my password and to compound it I'd changed email provider too so made things difficult to retrieve my PW...

Anyway I've made progress. Getting the PT-109 kit for Xmas has sort of slowed it down though.

I got out between rainbursts and shot a few pics. Hopefully soon more will follow... PT-1XX has drawn my attention away from this build but what I'm learning there is being incorporated into this build too. A lot of parts will be re-remodified as I go.



Just rough scratched interiors for the open deck hatches. I really have to thank so many guys here on the PT Boat forum & Jeff Davidsons excellent build & website at PT103.com for being so helpful with this and countless other AMS related issues I have.



The ammo locker. Hard to find evidence of this and I used a LOT of guess work. Documentation said it existed. photographically I only found one shot that suggested it did hidden away behind someones legs.



the 5th rendition of the engine room hatch and air intake. Finding copies of the Elco drawings for this was just to much for AMS to leave it alone. Still hatches and catches to add and the tiny details.



The hatch for the above & one of thwe four Torpedo racks halfway through my attempt at detailing them up. All things said I think these are probably the poorest represented part of the Italeri kit. A bugger to correct to if you have Fat finger syndrome.

Keith

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