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 Author  Topic: New photo of PT 109 under JFK comes to light
  TED WALTHER

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Drew;
I just bought the book, and the photo looks to be from the same roll as the water damaged underway photo in Donovan's book. Also, I compared the background with a photo of PT 61, which I also think is from the same roll and taken from the deck of PT 109. You compare.









the next few are just for Frank!




whoever took this only had to step back 1 extra foot and we would all see the 61 above the 77' er's window!









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  TED WALTHER

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GEE! does that actually show the correct color "Tropical/Jungle Green"!!! WOW! All these years and I have finally solved the mystery!


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Bob Butler

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What a day in PT Boat modeling history. If someone that has a hue changing program can get the skin tones on JFK correct and you may have the color if the photo is a true color photo. I'll mess with it later.


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Roy Forbes

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What the heck is with the target orange life ring ?


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Bob Butler

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Ted, What book was this in. I just used Corel Photo Paint the change the hue. The young Lt. doesn't look so green and the boat color is a real close match to the color of the boat tied up next to PT 61 in those color photos. This may be for real.

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TED WALTHER

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Bob;
No book that I know of, I found both photos while surfing for that water damaged photo in Donovan's book. Your hue change looks very close to the colors that we used on our riverine boats in Panama. I have always thought that was the right color for this boat, but that is MY opinion. I have also painted my PT 59 models(1/72nd and 1/32nd scale) this color.
take care,
TED


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Bob Butler

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Bob Butler  Posted on: Jun 14, 2013 - 9:34pm
I spent a lot of time looking at those little bits and pieces of the boat (said to be the 109) tied up next tp PT 60 and came up with what I thought was a close match so I painted my 109 that color. Comparing your photo to my mix is really really close. When I was messing with the hue I discovered I hardly had to change anything. A slight move changed the green to a dk gray. I can see now why two of the crew said green and the other two said gray, a little touch of color blindness. Thanks, may be the best find yet. Now if you can just find out who shot the man.


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Drew Cook

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Ted,

I agree with you on the supposition all those photos, including the one of the 61, were probably on one roll of film, taken around the same time.

Thanks for posting the full, new photo of the 109 from "Listening In - The Secret White House Recordings of John F. Kennedy." It shows more of that low coastline and the boats (blobs, really) to aft of the 109.


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TED WALTHER

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Bob;
Believe it or not, this book and a quick google search actually bring a little more LOGICAL sense to that too. The corset he wore for his back, actually kept him sitting up straight in the car, when a normal man would have been thrown forward in the car, by the impact of the first bullet. If he could have just left that damn thing in the plane, he probably would have survived. I am sure Jack Duncan, as a ballistics expert, could confirm this "hypothetical" possibility. Instead, he wore it and he was a victim of his own ailments.
Take care,
TED


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I wanted to give that skin color a little bit more of a warmer (tanned) tone and it took the boat to a darker olive color. We may never know the real color that I'm sure changed day by day in that humid sun.

Tan skin photo Kennedycolor.jpg


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