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Jeff D
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 Posted on: Mar 29, 2013 - 5:59am
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You certainly are on to something, at least as far as I know. I've never spotted that before. Excellent photo squinting Stu!
It could be an early version of a heater. And I see what you mean in the 110 shot, it could be an exhaust pipe. It's on the stbd side in the drawings and 141 shot. That would be a cool detail on a boat with a heater, the pipe snaked around the torpedo tube foundation before dumping out the side. Check out drawing ELCO_Roll_5535-4_72SCAN_00326.pdf, for PT 159-196 and 314-367 plus.
I went through the heater drawings but couldn't find any additional information. Likewise with ammo storage drawings. So for now I'll say "early boats of the 103 class show a heater-like box in images of them being shipped out" or something like that. I've learned to say "maybe" and "guess" a lot with PT boats. :D
Any better images or information would sure be appreciated.
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Stuart Hurley
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Posted on: Mar 29, 2013 - 8:31am
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Stu,
I doubt very much those heating units were retained on the 80' Elco PTs in the South Pacific.
The equatorial heat would have (quite obviously) negated their use, and as the boats were stripped of everything non-essential for combat -- particularly anything of any weight -- if those heating units even made it to Tulagi on the boats, I'm pretty sure they'd have been removed and left on the beach.
Although the classic Revell 1/72nd scale model kit of the 80' Elco PT, first released in the early 1960's, has a part for that heating unit box, I'd never model a PTO 80' Elco PT with one.
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Hi, Drew.
Thanks for the info.
You are correct, but I have gone down the route of building my 109 as she was before shipping, so I have as we say, 'made a rod for my own back' If only we could get a photo of that beach!
Got to go with it now as I have driven myself mad scratch building lengths of toe rail.
Best Regards,
Stu.
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Stuart Hurley
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Posted on: Mar 29, 2013 - 8:47am
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Jeff,
I have seen no other photos of our early heater box. I think the words maybe and guess will feature strongly on this one.
I would go with a diagonal brace on the rear face and one louvre. I can't see any evidence of an exhaust or drain.
It could be MacArthurs' filing cabinet !
There is something on the forward face in the 109 shipping shot from stbd. but I can't get much out of the photo. Maybe it is the duct. Logically it has to be there.
I notice on late boats the duct enters the day cabin higher up, through the area which had the window and there is a hairdryer like assembly (which appears in the parts catalogue) around the duct, with a vent to stbd through the cabin wall.
Maybe we'll turn something up. I'll keep looking.
Best Regards,
Stu.
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: Mar 29, 2013 - 10:18am
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Stu,
Sorry, I missed that you're modeling the 109 as she was shipped out on the Stanton.
The model looks great -- beautiful work. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished boat!
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Stuart Hurley
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Posted on: Mar 29, 2013 - 11:48am
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Thanks Drew,
I am enjoying the build and really getting my teeth into it. I hope I can do it justice.
Best Regards,
Stu.
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Tracy White
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Posted on: Mar 31, 2013 - 7:58am
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My guess is that is PT-315 as the 315 is roughly centered and she spent a lot of time in PTRon 4 at Melville, where it would have been easier/more likely for her to be filmed.
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Jeff D
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Posted on: Apr 15, 2013 - 3:41pm
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That heater that didn't match drawings turned out to be a rubber boat stowage locker. Those with Dick's drawing DVD can find it on ELCO_Roll_5535-2_72SCAN_00179.pdf.
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TED WALTHER
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Posted on: Apr 15, 2013 - 7:06pm
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All;
Yes this is PT 315, with an extra 1 added to throw off any enemy intell types that might see the film.
take care,
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Jerry Beasley
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Posted on: Apr 24, 2013 - 11:47am
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Stu,
Would you please email me at jgbeas@comcast.net . I want to pick your brain on torpedo tube questions. Thanks
Jerry
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Stuart Hurley
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Posted on: Apr 26, 2013 - 12:49am
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Jerry,
Incoming.
Best Regards,
Stu.
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