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 Author  Topic: Question About the Gunboats from PTs
TGConnelly

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Mar 6, 2013 - 10:40am
I just asked my questions to start an discussion to exchange opinions and such, does the relevancy of the topic really matter? I am interested in what others here might think.

I realize that MGB is a RN designator - but the RN used hull designs of MTB, MASB and ASRLs as MGBs, ... just as the USN did with the 77-footers and the Higgins PTs ...

So, I just was wondering if people here might have opinions on this subject ...


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Frank J Andruss Sr

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If a PT BOAT comes out of ELCO, HIGGINS, or HUCKINS as a PT BOAT, it is what it is, regardless of what is changed on the boat or added. You can't just make up a name that didn't exist for them.



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TGConnelly

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Mar 6, 2013 - 11:57am
THAT is NOT the impetus of my question Guys, .............

I'm just asking it to find out what you guys might think of the boats and their role as other than PTs ......... This is not a person presenting a doctoral dissertation ...

I'm just asking to start an interesting "side-bar" discussion here without any deep thinking ...

I just thought it would have been a fun and interesting thread for the board ..........

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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Mar 6, 2013 - 12:58pm
Hey Will! Yeah thats the ticket! BAD ASS PATROL BOAT-658. We have more weapons than any PT boat ever had! We BAD! I kind of like that Will! BAPB-658 sort of has a nice ring to it dont you think? OK we still need some 30 cal Brownings for the forward torpedo racks. Jerry

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Will Day

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Garth is right about one thing. . .He won't find much deep thinking on this tread!

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Will Day

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Garth is right about one thing. . .He won't find much deep thinking on this tread!

Will

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Dick

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Dick   Send Email To Dick Posted on: Mar 6, 2013 - 1:48pm

On another message board a no-so-nice post about our members was made about our discussion of the non-existent U.S. Navy boat category PTGB, PGM or MGB or something of that nature.

Because of this I would like to expand the discussion to these thoughts - Of course "Just for Fun", please consider the following:

- Patrol Rocket & Guns Torpedo boat (PRGT)
- Patrol More Guns Torpedo boat (PMGT)
- Patrol More Guns No Torpedos boat (PMGNT)
- Patrol Guns All Around boat (PGAA)
- Patrol Torpedo with Lots of Guns and Barrage Rockets (PTLGBR)

OR we could simply consider the countless PT modification throughout the war as simply PT boats no matter what they were carrying or how modified.

Please feel free to add your acronyms for the boat configurations you've seen.





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I'd like to make a bid for a PWT designation for PT 41, Private Water Taxi.



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kendall strehle

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with the designations going on, is it possible that some pt's went to the air corp? or did all pt's stay with the navy. other then the lend lease. the reason i ask my dads boat was an avr , navy. while the same kind of boat with the same armament went to the army air corp labeled as a pc? still a 63 footer with 2 twin 50's for rescue. its been awhile so bear with me.

kendall p. strehle
avr c-26654

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of alross2   Send Email To alross2 Posted on: Mar 6, 2013 - 5:34pm
Kendall,

I don't know of any PTs transferred to the US Army Air Corps, but a number of 63' AVRs were. Your Dad's boat, C-26654 was built by Harbor Boat and was a Design 314 boat. Holtham's book on the 63' boats lists her but does not give any dates or information beyond the hull number.

If she was transferred to the USAAC, it would probably have had a P or Q number. I;ve never seen a PC designation for an Army boat. Post war, if she was still in service, she probably would have been given an R number.

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