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 Author  Topic: Day Room Roof Connecting Plates
Jeff D

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Here's another item I can't find in a photo. Does anyone have an image showing these plates that secure the removable part of the cabin roof to the trunk?:





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Jeff D

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If you are building an Italeri kit, I think Al pointed out that the reinforcing rim at the mouth of the funnel is too pronounced. It is a piece of 1/2" x 1/4" half round aluminum, so the model part could use some sanding down.



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I've seen them on the 70' and 77' ELCOs. They connect the three cockpit segments. Never seen them on an 80'.


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David Waples

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Hi Jeff,
I just went through every photo I have and I can't find anything that shows these plates. Not good pictures and this area of the 103 class boats is rarely photographed so I can't say for sure. But looking at Doyle's book at the late war Elco at Battleship Cove there's no sign of these plates.

Where did you come up with these? I'm wondering if it isn't part of construction that when finished isn't visible? Just a thought. Tell us more about these.

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29navy

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Here's a photo, you can see some of the brackets below the turret. I'll keep hunting for a closer pictures.



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Frank J Andruss Sr

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I think this is just one of those things that is overlooked. I never saw them on an eighty-footer before, although very noticeable on the seventy and seventy-seven footer. Even with Charlie's photo, you have to really look and blow up the photo to spot them. I think what is not thought of here is the fact that items were kept on the dayroom, and must have been over-looked by the majority of us. You continue to learn something new all the time, good eye Jeff.........


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Jeff D

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Great Charlie, thanks for posting that image.

The plates were fairly thin so paint would blend them in quite a bit but the nuts on the bolts were topside and should stick out in a decent photo. The lighting and quality of Charlies photo really picks the whole plate out nicely.



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David Waples

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What is the purpose of the plates?
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I'm guessing but I think the plates were used so that the day cabin roof could be removed and then replaced without having the screwheads go too far into the roof or ending up with numerous holes from previous screws.

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Jeff D

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They tied the fixed part of the roof with the removable part. There was a plate on the inside also, through bolted and sandwiching the roof sections between sets of plates. The roof joint was a simple butt.

I was doubting their existence a bit too, even though another drawing shows the plates modified for the forward angled turrets on later boats.



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