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  SteveS156

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Can anyone tell me if the daylights and other windows on the 109 boat were overpainted when she went from gray to green upon arrival in the PTO?

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Steve

This is one of those gray areas in that I do not have any photographic evidence that the deadlights were painted over, so I will just say that it seemed to be a standard practice that most of the boats had them painted over so that no light would escape. You would not be wrong or jumped on for painting them over in your model. I have never seen any PT-109 photos to show any different.


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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Steve

This is one of those gray areas in that I do not have any photographic evidence that the deadlights were painted over, so I will just say that it seemed to be a standard practice that most of the boats had them painted over so that no light would escape. You would not be wrong or jumped on for painting them over in your model. I have never seen any PT-109 photos to show any different.


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SteveS156

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Thanks,Frank ! The driver behind this question is the "PT-157" book by Bridgeman H. Carney. Santa brought me this for Christmas and it contains amazingl details for modelers. In his construction, it looks like the daylights are over painted, but he used clear styrene for the charthouse and dayroom windows. This guy is one serious modeler and he did extensive research on PT-157! This will be really helpful when I get baack to my1/72nd scale PT-156 wih thr stern mounted Maxon turret.

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steve;
then paint over them.
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Ted - What shade of green do you think would that be?

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Your poking at holes again will.

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SteveS156

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Thanks for the input, guys! If I recall correctly, the 157 was the boat that rescued the PT-109 survivors. If she truely did have unpainted charthouse and daycabin windows, it only makes sense that the 109 boad was similarly configured. These are very prominent and visible, so I want to get it right. Garth, what are your 2 cents?

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"If she (PT 157) truly did have unpainted charthouse...windows..."

There are two well-known photos of PT 157 when she was based at Rendova around the time of the 109 rescue. In both, the "windows" (ports) on the forward face of the charthouse are clearly painted over.

The dayroom cabin ports and the side ports on the charthouses of 80' Elcos had interior panels that folded up and secured to block any light from escaping from inside the boat. I would assume the outboard faces of the panels would be painted black, or the topside color of the boat.

My own opinion is that the forward charthouse ports on the 109 were painted over, and the side ports of the charthouse as well as the dayroom ports would have been covered by their purpose-built interior panels.

Don't know about the deadlights.


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