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Mark Culp

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Mark Culp   Send Email To Mark Culp Posted on: Feb 20, 2012 - 8:32am
PT Boat bell on Ebay. Is this an authentic bell?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-Brass-NAVY-U-S-S-PT-648-BOAT-BELL-Mounted-Hickory-Brass-Stand-/150759823452?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2319fc585c


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Frank J Andruss Sr

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I looked at that and was not sure myself. I had contacted Jerry about this piece but to date have not heard back from him. This is only the second bell I have seen dealing with PT BOATS, and to tell you the truth, I am not sure if they all had them or not............


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Jeff D

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Feb 20, 2012 - 11:47am
It looks close in shape and size to the bell visible in two photos posted by Bob and Al on this thread:
http://www.ptboats.org/cgi-local/sitenetbbs/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=2195&sc=20&pg=1&x=0

It's located at the aft side of the port turret.



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Bob

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Our drawings show it as a 6" bell, same as the ebay one.

Bob

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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Feb 20, 2012 - 3:31pm
Hi Frank and Bob and everyone,
We have on the PT658 a donated PT boat bell engraved with "PT483" Or something close to that number? It has a completely different hangar, ours has a keystone shaped wedge that fits into a female holder bracket. You can loosen a set screw and lift the wedge up and out of the bracket. We do this for safekeeping. The bell itself looks identical to that one, however. I think maybe we should get it for the PT658 since it was only 10 numbers different than our own hull number. Frank, the guys story sounds very plausible to me as well. If somebody purchases this bell would you guys consider a trade? Thanks Jerry

Here is a photo of our bell



Here is Al Ross Picture showing the bell and PT265-313 turret



Here is PT305 with bell mounted on mast, that is XO Morse and CO Purdy at wheel



Here is crewman on PT305 with bell on mast in background


Jerry Gilmartin

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Don't count on me Jerry, I think that bell on EBAY will far surpass what's in my wallet. Thanks for the information and the photo's..........


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Bob

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How bout this one?


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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Allan   Send Email To Allan Posted on: Feb 20, 2012 - 6:45pm
Being a retired Fire Captain from the City of Hartford I have to say that in the fire service it was the apparatus bell that represented the heart and sole of any particular truck. When a truck was finally surveyed out of city service, that damned bell was sought after by so very many people- all of whom had an association with the truck being removed from service. They weren't "bell collectors". They wanted to preserve the "sole" of that truck in rememberance of all the "working fires" and the men that worked them, the lives lost or changed forever, the damage and destruction that the truck and the bell witnessed.

And so it must also be for the bell of a ship- more important, the bell of a PT boat. Of course, the 648 never saw service. But that bell is so representative of those that did. What I wouldn't give for the bell from USS PT 113, laying atop the coral bottom of Veal Reef in the waters off New Guinea. I sure hope this bell gets to where it should be- a kind of final resting place, in honor of those that served.

That theme carries through to those who conduct deep sea salvage. Ever see the pride on the diver's face as he displays the ship's bell? He knows he's hold ing the heart and sole of that long ago lost ship. Not a single other item aboard any ship would convey the true essence of that ship.

Sorry for the rambling but I just had to comment. I have a couple of fire apparatus bells from the City that were, and are, important to me. I'm now thinking that I should find a "final resting place" for them, as well.

Allan



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Curiously, the seller mixes up the RON with a VA squadron. 648 was assigned to RON 44 but he talks about Attack Squadron 44 (HORNETS), which was an East Coast training squadron (Cecil Field, FL) for A4 Skyhawks. I spent a couple months assigned to VA44 in 1969.

Al


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I agree with Jerry on the shape of the hanger. Wedge shaped that fits into a female holder. The bell from the 210 looks exactly like Jerry's first photo. And reads ' U S S PT 210'.

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