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bwross

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Sep 15, 2011 - 7:13pm
Hi all,

I have been making some progress of my conversion of the PT109 to PT337 and I'm looking for some opinions. I'm working from this picture



Couple of things; there appears to be a weapon platfrom on the foredeck but no weapon. Is there someway of verifying whether or not 337 had a gun there when she was lost? I'm thinking a 20mm would be there but I could be wrong.

Second, what is that on the top of the charthouse? I've seen pictures of boats with a foil above the bridge, would they have put a foil on the charthouse?

I've finished roughing out the new engineroom ventilator (I'll post a picture soon) and am starting to work on adding details; based on a picture I've seen of PT331 that could be a swab rack on the port side.....any opinions?

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Bruce

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Alex Johnson

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Alex Johnson  Posted on: Sep 15, 2011 - 7:49pm
Hi Bruce-

PT 337 is a great subject to model for your 109 conversion, in my opinion. Be sure to keep us updated as your build progresses. That is indeed the aerofoil. It appears here in the down position resting on the charthouse. When used, it was raised and angled to deflect wind up over the cockpit area. I am currently working on a PT 486-563 series model and am scratch building the aerofoil.

Interesting aside: camouflage enthusiasts may note that the soft color patterns extend from the hull up unto the deck.

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Will Day

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Will Day   Send Email To Will Day Posted on: Sep 16, 2011 - 10:35am
Bruce - I have a couple of pictures of the 337 with what appears to be a 20mm gun at that bow station. Since she still had tubes in those shots, it would appear that they were taken prior to the one you are working from.

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David Waples

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That's a great picture to model from. It looks like the 20mm was permanently removed. I'm not familiar with this boat. Is this one where the 20mm was placed in the turret? Just trying to speculate why they would have removed the 20mm off the fore deck.

There are some other interesting details on this boat. The original mounts from the tubes are still in place. There is a box arrangement of some sort around the port side chart house window. I can't recall seeing that before.

The windows on the forward side of the chart house are not painted over.

Again, nice subject! Share your work!
Dave

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David ;
This photo is my "opinion" , probably taken in Panama while RON 24 was doing thier pre deployment training. PT 337 was only around for 10 months before it was destroyed. The forward 20MM was probably removed for some other reason, such as repair to the mount, that has not been completed as of the time this photo was taken. I am sure the 20mm was back in this location by the time RON 24 reached Dreger Harbor. While boats on the fordeck were not uncommon in PT photos(ie: PT 157 and PT 333) it usually meant they were in a transition status(ie moving bases, or intending to move soon). As you pointed out, The item in this photo that really caught my eye, is what looks like a vent scoop on the port side charthouse window, sort of like the one we recently discovered on RON 22 boats in the med, used for forcing cool air into the charthouse while the radar unit is in operation.

Bruce;
Yes that may very well be a swab stowed on the side of the engineroom hatch/ventilator , I have a photo of PT 562 RON 29 with it in the same location.


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bwross

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Hey guys,
Thanks for all the inputs and thoughts. I noted the box over the charthouse windowunless someone knows of a closer picture that I can work from I guess Im going to have to use a little artistic license to engineer a box; I do like Daves theory that it was an air diverter..makes sense. I noted that it appears that there is writing over that box..boats nickname perhaps?
Dave that is an interesting observation about the date of the picture.I hadnt even thought of the dingy position as in indicator of timeframe. Based on your comments, was it normal to have the dingy moved to the day cabin room under normal operations?
I think that Im going to at least ship a 20mm back into that foredeck position; I just cant imagine a boat at that late stage of the war going in with a clear foredeck!
The picture is the revised engine room hatch with the rebuilt hatch/ventilator; if anyone notices anything out of place please let me know so I can correct them early in the build.



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Hello
I will be keeping an eye on this build, good work


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Bruce, those observations should be credited to Ted and not me. :-)
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bwross

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Oops! My mistake; thanks Ted.

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Sep 18, 2011 - 7:18am
It's a small detail Bruce, but the forward edge of the hatch didn't have a cutout for the turret. It was straight across. Please note that the hatch cover is unfinished:



Forgive me if I'm being nit-picky, but the straight part of the funnels look a little small on diameter, they should be 7.



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