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TGConnelly
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 8:45am
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Well, ... if someone had asked me ... maybe I could have been afforded the opportunity to clarify my statements as opposed to being dismissed by two individuals here all of the time ...
But, hey ... no skin off my nose ...
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alross2
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 Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 9:48am
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John,
If you're into scratch-building, there are two 77' hulls available. MicroGlass microglass.net offers a 1/32 scale fiberglass hull with your choice of plans. Wayne Traxel, who lurks on this site  offers a fiberglass hull, deck, and superstructure for the 77' boats in 1/24.
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TGConnelly
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 10:11am
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Since John said that he was doing the Revell kit; I don't THINK he wants to do a BIG model, Mr. Ross. That's why I did not mention those semi-kits ...
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alross2
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 11:30am
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John,
Here''s a shot of the 1/96 Gulfstream and 1/350 WEM 77' hulls. As moulded, both are of the first series boats, but they can be fairly easily- modified to a second series. The gray hull has been partially modified to the later boat configuration by recarving the back of the cockpit to the streamlined curve and removing the boot on the front face of the charthouse. I still have to add the deck stiffeners and locker aft of the turrets, along with some other items. Might finish it someday...
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David Waples
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 11:34am
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Greetings John,
Well we've managed to open up the dark cloud than hangs over this forum. I hoped it wouldn't happen but I thought when I answered your question about the 109 mast I guess it was inevitable. Every photo of the 109 in combat shows no indication of a mast. The most telling photo is that of the 109 under Kennedy which appears on the jacket of the National Geographic book "Collision with History, The Search for John F. Kennedy's PT109". That photo isn't great but there is clearly no sign of a mast laying down on the day cabin. Until somebody can produce evidence that the 109 had her classic A frame mast, my belief and my interpretation is that she did not.
John, if you wish to model your boat with the mast I think that's fine. I love those masts myself and would have been very happy to model the boat that way had the evidence been there. That's just how I model. I have no problems with anyone doing it their own way because we do this hobby for enjoyment.
For the 77' Elco the only thing I can add that hasn't been said already is that Frank's Mosquito Boat Hobby lists a 1:20 77' Elco and he offers this in the 59 configuration. It's very expensive and geared more towards RC operations. I don't know if Frank's is still in business. You would have to reach out to him to find out but his web site is still active. Here's a link if you're interested...
http://www.franksmosquitoboathobbies.com/pt59.htm
I hope you enjoy your build and that our little dark cloud doesn't run you off. There are some very good people here. We look forward to seeing your progress.
Dave
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John V
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 11:39am
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Here's my boat so far. I can't do tropical green, no airbrush yet, am relocating so it won't be up and running until I relocate next year.So its rattle cans and bottles for this build. I am using Testors medium green for this OOB build. As for the mast from what that ex 109 member said it almost can be taken that "down" ment folded in the down position? Just an educated guess.---John
[IMG]http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k256/john5353/P9050010_01.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k256/john5353/P9050011_01.jpg[/IMG]
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John V
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 11:46am
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Sorry I opened a can of worms, NOT my style. I am not going with a mast up or down. The only picture I have is of Kennedy and his crew in front of cabin and there is no mast present in any form. Again thanks to ALL and hope I didn't start a "family feud". I will post pictures as soon as I figure it out.---John
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Hadly
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 11:52am
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Boy, I just stopped by to see "what condition my condition was in" and what a hornets nest I found.
John, on your links you need to change "IMG" to be spelled out "image"
Here is the clickable links from John's message,
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(yes these are my real initials - I didn't know Dick want us to use our real names spelled out, I apologize Dick)
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David Waples
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 11:56am
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It's not your fault John. Just have fun with your build.
FYI, Revell is actually considering updating this kit. Nothing for sure but I'm hoping that they do much as they did with their B-17 recently released.
Dave
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John V
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Posted on: Sep 5, 2011 - 11:58am
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Test picture---John
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