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Jeff D Moderator	Posted on: May 24, 2010 - 11:09am
	Makes sense to me, and would explain the lack of drawings in Dick's collection. I've gone through many of them trying to find reference to a 20mm forward turret setup but can't find a thing other than the ammo locker conversion for the 187-196 boats previously mentioned. As an aside, a photo of the 192 Kim sent me shows .50 cals. in the forward turret. I'll be posting her pics later, one has some nice chart house artwork of the GALLOPING GUILLOTINE centaur visible.
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Nathaniel Smith MASTER	Posted on: May 28, 2010 - 4:25pm
	This is the shot of the forward deck of the White Plains that wasn't in the Bulkley book. natsmith
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Nathaniel Smith MASTER	Posted on: May 28, 2010 - 4:48pm
	When I post something that later is proven to be incorrect I see it as my responsibility to correct my mis-information. The photographic evidence is beyond doubt and Pat this may be the only time your near perfect memory has been wrong. I love the inconsistencies of research. Bridge ... thanks for your PT-157 ID. Pat ... thanks for the 1000's of things you got right. Can anyone help me with the boats up front? I have a very fuzzy Deck Log for PT-157 which (I think) says it was placed "portside forward" natsmith
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TED WALTHER TOP BOSS	Posted on: May 29, 2010 - 5:52am
	Nat; To me it looks like 159 on the port side, blowing up the photo , it looks to me as a 9 on the side of the cockpit. As the boat on starboard my PURE guess is 158. The log books are the only real way of figuring it out. If Kelly went with the first group, Brantingham must have went with the second, what ship did the second group go on? Take care, TED
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HQ327 New Member	Posted on: May 29, 2010 - 11:20am
	See: http://www.ptboats.org/cgi-local/sitenetbbs/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=1814&pg=1&sc=20&x=0 Mod was done stateside. JG
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Nathaniel Smith MASTER	Posted on: May 29, 2010 - 6:54pm
	Deck Log PT-157 12 December 1942 I am sorry my camera messed up with this shot. I think it says "PT 157 loaded on board SS White Plains, Port side forward." The second ship that brought Ron 9 boats to Panama was the SS FW Weller. I know Pt-159 was on board and probably PT-160 and PT-161 natsmith
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Nathaniel Smith MASTER	Posted on: May 29, 2010 - 7:09pm
	Deck Log PT-159 5 January 1943 natsmith

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Pat Rogers Advanced Member	Posted on: May 30, 2010 - 8:21am
	I was on board PT154 when it left NYC on the SS White Plains in Dec. 1942. There were no 20MM guns mounted on any of the 8 PT boats that were on board. The boats all had 50 cal. guns in both turrets. I was just a radioman and not a high level person. PT154 did not get a 20Mm until it went through a retrofit in Tulagi just before it started in the Bougainville campaign. There is a picture on this site that shows PT154 enroute to Bougainville in Oct. 1943 with the 20MM gun present.. There was no Mr. Kelly on board the White Plains. I think he was already Lt. Cmdr. I got to know Mr. Kelly pretty well during my time in the South Pacific, not necessarily to my liking, He chewed my ass out two times. I don't believe that he was in any way involved in the decision to mount 20MM guns in the forward turret. Mr. Brantingham was the senior officer on board the White Plains on the trip to the Panama Canal. I believe he was a full lieutenant. There are other inconsistencies that I may bring up at a later date. Pat Rogers, PT154, RON 9, Radioman
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Nathaniel Smith MASTER	Posted on: May 30, 2010 - 10:13am
	Pat, Glad to see you back and sharing your terrific memory with us. Is this pretty much the way you remembered it as it left NYC aboard the White Plains? natsmith
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TheBridge TOP BOSS	Posted on: May 30, 2010 - 10:39am
	Hi Pat, Your would be a great person to ask this question of.... In the cockpit of the 154 did it have a small, fold down platform, by the port entrance from the deck, that was about 20 inches off the deck for a person to stand on so as to to look out and over the helmsman's head? Did the 154 also have the 5-inch high platform with the 2-inch rubber mat on the deck for the helmsman to stand on? This will help identify which of the cockpit configurations in the ELCO blueprints apply to the series of PT built at that time of the 154. Thanks, Bridge
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