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Bill Manley

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Does anyone know if PT Boats carried anchors on them and where they would be stowed? I noticed in most of my photographs that the PT Boats had no anchors visible on deck.

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CJ Willis

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We carried ours on 242 in the rope locker.

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Looking at Doyle's book there may be several answers. On page 14 the photo of PT-617 at Battleship Cove shows the anchor held in place by a bracket on the forward most port side of the deck near the chain locker. However on page 61 there is a photo of the anchor secured in a bracket below deck behind the crash bulkhead on the starboard side, adjacent to the head. The later is a black and white interior shot and the author doesn't identify it as PT-617. I have seen a lot of photos of 80' Elcos with the anchor either lying on the deck or more likely lashed to the toe rail near the anchor chain locker.
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Jerry Beasley

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Another thought on the pictures showing the anchor below decks in a bracket - I certainly can't speak for a PT Boat, but during my time in the Navy (60's) many of the smaller boats I was familiar with also carried a second anchor as an emergency spare in the event they had to cut one loose or it was in some other way lost. Certainly another possibility one of our PT Boaters might be able to comment on.

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CJ Willis

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We seldom used our anchor. At Lambu Lambu we berthed in the mangrove roots and bushes along the shore. At Treasury we tied up to huge tree limbs that hung out over the water along the shore. At Rendova and Green Island we tied up to bouys. Tulagi had some berths and some bouys. When we first opened the base at Green we used the anchor until the base got the bouys set out. I recall one night at Green when a big wind storm blew in and we started dragging the bouy. We had to crank up and throw out the anchor. We dragged the anchor some distance before it caught and held. We didn't like to use them unless absolutely necessary. A lot of work pulling them in.

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For ELCO boats fresh from the factory, Dicks drawings show a deck stowage arrangement for PT 372-383, 486-545, 546-563, and 731-760. The drawing shows a location of 10.5" starboard of the boat's center line and just aft of the forward deck hatch.

A 565-624 drawing shows a deck stowage location for PT 565-576 of 20" starboard of the boat's center line and just aft of the forward deck hatch. A note states this position was as delivered and later relocated to the 577-624 position of between the mooring post and foot rail, and angled out at the aft end a little less than the foot rail angle.

Another 565-624 drawing shows only one below deck stowage location on bulkhead 4.

The below deck stowage drawing for the other boats shows an additional location on bulkhead 9, and a note states the bulkhead 4 location was discontinued after PT 372.

The drawings on the DVD:
ELCO_Roll_5535-2_72SCAN_00270.pdf
ELCO_Roll_5535-2_72SCAN_00297.pdf
ELCO_Roll_5535-2_72SCAN_00342.pdf
ELCO_Roll_5535-2_72SCAN_00377.pdf

Here's some specs from http://www.hnsa.org/doc/pt/specs/:

PT 565-624

SECTION A-7.
MISCELLANEOUS ARTICLES
2 75-pound Danforth anchors, with 5/8" shackle and 3/4" pin.
2 50 Fathoms 4 1/2" sisal anchor rope complete with thimble and shackle. Rig one for service.

SECTION W-1.
COMPARTMENTS
W-1-a. Forepeak.-The forepeak is accessible through removable watertight hatch in the collision bulkhead, and on port side of center line is fitted with a slatted rack of hardwood for chain and anchor rope with fore and aft partitioning as per plan.
W-1-c. Forward passageway to starboard of crew's lavatory.-To be fitted with a bench above girder and shelves for miscellaneous boat and commissary stores. Also, chocks and lashings for two 75-pound Danforth anchors one below and one on topside as required.




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Bill Manley

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Thanks to everyone who responded and I am always interested in the PT stories that our PT veterans talk about since I am a historian for WWII PT Boats, Tenders and Bases. Since I got back I have been pretty busy updating all my archives. Thanks again.

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Bill,

I thought a picture might help.

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Just trying to prove I can not follow Dick's directions. One more shoot at posting the photograph:



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Just a trivia comment. Most of our ron 10 boats didn't use our anchors, but the natives loved them. Soooo, they were mostly traded to them and we all were pleased. Message to Navy, "SEND MORE ANCHORS"


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