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  FRANK

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of FRANK  Posted on: Mar 14, 2010 - 8:57am
Hey Frankie A.-

Mind if I add my two cents to the pot?? "WHY" cut that beautiful GATO sub hull AT ALL???!!!

Why not have Stan model the diorama from above AND below the waterline with both the sub and the PT??? Just use plexiglass ( I know Stan can cut out the holes in the plexi) and just mount the models. Paint the top of the plexiglass to simulate the water and use MOD PODGE decopouge medium to build up the wave action and seal in the color and add the gloss of the water as well.

Just my take! I have done this before for our Maritime Museum here in Jacksonville with a Titanic model. It came out very sweet! I would sure sleep on this one. You can even include Ted's idea for the coffee table as well! When you're sitting down you'll be able to get both views of the diorama!! It sure would be different!!

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David Waples

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Hey, the coffee table idea was mine! LOL. :-)

If you do it right that could be very nice. That technique adds some nice depth to the water. I have an article on how to do that. If you would like I'll be glad to forward it along.

Dave

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  FRANK

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Hey Dave-

Sorry for the slip of the fingers there with the coffe table idea! I just wanted to make sure that you get the credit for the idea!

I too would like to see the plans for the coffe table as well, Dave! I have told Frank about this above and below technique before. The overall effect is breathtaking when done correctly! This technique wouod work well with any nautical based model from squareriggers, to PT's and even modern day warships!

I still want to do my Calypso research vessel by Revell with a sunken pirate vessel from above and below the waterline. If I could only find the old Revell model! She's been out of production for years.

The calypso model has a mini sub as well as scale model divers, an inflatable Zodiac, and even a couble of scale sharks. I'll use gold glitter for the gold sprinkled on the ocean floor. I keep looking on e-bay every so often with littl or no success. This would be an ideal project for mymaritime sunken treasure themed coffe table!

Frank Ryczek, Jr.
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TED WALTHER

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David;
Yes the credit is yours, but when I was a kid my Dads lawyer on Long Island had end tables with lighted mallard duck dioramas, in the reed grass of Great South Bay. That was 1970, I loved those end tables! the flying Mallards had about a 4 inch wing span, just to give you an idea of the scale. If Frank does not use your Idea, maybe I will someday.
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Frank

I would offer a compromise to the coffee table height concern thet you have.

Two sets of legs.
One shorter set for when the set is say in your office or den for meetings with PT guys. Everyone can get close and personal with the diorama at seat height.
One longer set for say counter (36") height for when you take the diorama on the road to a school or convention.

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Thanks Guys for all of your wonderful ideas and help. In going over all of the ideas with Stan, we decided not to use the coffee table look. Not because it is bad idea, but just becuase Stan is too busy to make one at this time. Water idea is awesome as well and is a possibility. Right now I am waiting on some photos of PT-108 on how she looked in late 1943-44 so we can copy her. It was decided we would make PT-108 in honor of Earl Richmond, who served on her. I also saw the photo etched parts for the Gato Class Revell Submarine and they look very nice...............


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  David Waples

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Ted,
My dad used to tell me "originality is undetected plagiarism". He's right of course. What made me think of the coffee table was a similar arrangement except with Trout. A beautiful stream scene with a trout taking a fly. Beautiful and very expensive piece of work. Feel free to use it. I got the idea from somebody else. :-)
Dave

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Frank A.
Just a heads-up. When you get the WEM torpedoes, check their size. I ordered some last year and found the diameter to be under-sized enough that it just did not look right. I told them but do not know if they corrected the problem.
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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Ed
Thanks for the heads up on the torpedoes. If that is found to be a problem, Stan will just scratch build them, then Kill me later................


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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Hello Guys
I need some photos of PT-108 sometime in mid 1943-1944 and any shots showing the Star that was painted on the dayroom cabin, and type of armament package. Thanks in advacnce..............


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