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Mike Crawford
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Posted on: Sep 26, 2009 - 1:24pm
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FYI, enclosed is a pictureof PT224 at Melville.
Mike Crawford,
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Rm2c PT221)
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: Sep 26, 2009 - 6:33pm
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Wow -- two officers and fourteen enlisted -- that's a pretty "heavy" crew...
I was under the impression a standard PT crew was usually two officers and ten enlisted.
Was the 224 a heavily-upgunned boat (that needed extra gunners)?
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TED WALTHER |
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Posted on: Sep 26, 2009 - 7:22pm
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Mike;
Being a guy that is still in, I like the Chief Torpedoman and the Motor Machinist Mate 1/C with white socks in a blue uniform! Just goes to show you some things never change.
Take care,
TED
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QM
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Posted on: Sep 27, 2009 - 5:55am
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The 224 would have been equipped with : one 40mm, one 37mm, one 20mm. twin 50,s in the turrets and possibly a deck mounted twin 50. fourteen enlisted men would be needed. In 1944 some of the boats were staffed with a third officer.
The Exec. in the picture also appears to be wearing white socks, but I do not know the dress code for the uniform he is wearing. Also, if my memory is correct, chiefs were not assigned to a boat. |
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QM
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Posted on: Sep 27, 2009 - 6:15am
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Correction: I was thinking of Ron 21's PT 324 when I wrote the previous message. I have no knowledge of the guns on the 224. |
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Will Day
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Posted on: Sep 27, 2009 - 11:29pm
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I have a partial shot of the 224, and she looks pretty heavily gunned...
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29navy
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Posted on: Sep 28, 2009 - 5:21am
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Curious as to the label that says this is at Melville. Since 224 is a Higgins boat and they, in general, did not do shakedowns at Melville, and the background doesn't look like anything at Melville, since it was all Quonset huts and wooden structures, I was wondering how it was identified as being at Melville.
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TGConnelly
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Posted on: Sep 28, 2009 - 6:14am
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Charlie's right.
It looks like a background one would find either in Miami or Jacksonville or at the Higgins Plant.
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Jerry Gilmartin |
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Posted on: Sep 28, 2009 - 9:25am
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Good catch Charlie!
I am positive the PT224 never went to Melville. They were part of Ron 16 I am pretty sure, and they were sent down from New Orleans to the Panama Canal on their own bottom and then loaded up on a Tanker and transported to Seattle via San Francisco.Then they went up to the Aleutians after that, on their own bottoms. I have the Ron 16 Operations Diary compiled by SCC Al Piotter so I am pretty sure this is the case. I will review it for the exact movements of PT224 and then I can give an educated guess as to where this photo may have been taken. I will get back to this by tommorrow if I can. Jerry
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Alex Johnson
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Posted on: Sep 28, 2009 - 6:31pm
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Hi Guys-
I checked my RON 16 files and found out that this photograph was taken in San Francisco in August 30, 1944 prior to the squadron shipping out. The 224 crew are:
Front row: Brady (RM1/c), Rosenthal (XO), Wirley (CO), Novak (CTM), Pagacz (MoMM1/c)
Second row: Stevens (QM2/c), Osmer (MoMM3/c), Clark (GM3/c), Walsh (SC2/c), Stanton (GM2/c), Fuller (RDM)
Third row: Staveley (MoMM2/c), Adams (TM2/c), Spofford (S2/c), Reitz (S2/c)
Hope this helps,
ALEX
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