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Russell Pullano
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Posted on: May 9, 2009 - 5:10am
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Don, I have just now seen that you are a new member. I must have missed your initial post. Anyhow, WELCOME ABOARD. I'm sure you will be big plus with your presence. Nice job.
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: May 9, 2009 - 8:44am
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If not mistaken doesn't PT 728 have deisel engines in her. I don't think she moves too fast either. Jerry by the way, what's the top speed of PT 658 with the three Packards throbbing along.
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Posted on: May 9, 2009 - 10:21pm
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Hi Frank, We had the 658 up to 33.5 knots but we have made some improvements this spring and think she will go faster this coming June. We are planning to take her out by the last week of May for an engine test. The work on replacing the charthouse is almost completed. I am hoping for 40 knots. I will let you know when we take her out. Jerry
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: May 10, 2009 - 4:57am
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Jerry
Please when you do, have someone standing by with a Video Camera, so we can see this moment. To see one traveling at almost top speed would be the best thing since Mom's apple pie. By the way, what were you guys doing with the charthouse..........
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Posted on: May 11, 2009 - 9:35am
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Hi Frank,
We started poking around with a flat tip screwdriver and discovered several key parts of the framework of the charthouse had dry rotted. So we decided at a recent board meeting (Feb 2009) to go ahead and tear it out and rebuild the charthouse from the deck up using mahogany and the original blueprints. This time around, we are sealing all the new wood with Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealant and also using West Systems marine epoxy glue to join the frame. Hopefully, this will prevent any future dry rot from occurring. We saved all possible original wood and re-used what pieces we could save. We expect to have the charthouse rebuild completed by the last week of May. Visit our web site http://www.savetheptboatinc.com/ and visit the Winter-Spring 2009 pictures page to see the latest photos. Jerry
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: May 11, 2009 - 12:03pm
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Jerry
In looking at the photo's there is no doubt that this is a pretty big job. The upkeep and care for a wooden boat is never ending. Along those lines, today's products do a wonderful job in sealing wood, and keeping out moisture and water. I am sure she will look even better when completed. May I ask what purpose the wings served on the boat. Also, what do you guys apply on the guns to keep them from rusting. Don't forget my never ending question about producing a Video of the boat, which you never answer when I ask (lol)..................
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mcgovern61
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Posted on: Aug 1, 2017 - 7:45pm
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Hi Don,
I would be really surprised if it could do 25 knots with 2 of those Detroit 3V12's. I say this from having seen the P520, an 85 foot AF Crash Rescue Boat powered located in Long Beach Ca and owned by Bud Tretter. He has installed those same engines and it tops out at about 18-20 knots. They are great engines but they arent that fast and they are also pretty heavy. I sure wish the 486 /109 could get some Packard V12's instead!
Jerry PT 658 Portland
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Hi Jerry! I know this is an old post and Ron no longer owns the boat. I did visit the boat up in Kingston this past June 2017. She needs a lot more work now and those poor old 12v71's are not going to be doing work anytime soon.
However, I am just going to add that when I sailed on the boat in 1979 when it was the Sightseer, we would actually race against Ronnie Sinn with his Big Flamingo (Quad 12v71's in the Big Flamingo).
Full out with us pushing the governors wide open, we logged 23.5 knots against the Flamingo! (Even with nearly 125 people onboard!) Those Elco's sure did know how to move on the water. Of course the Sightseer was built for speed as a planing hull while the Big Flamingo was not.
It is important to note, the engines on the Sightseer were not located all the way aft like the Packards. The 12v71's were installed were the gas tanks would have been.
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mcgovern61
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Posted on: Aug 1, 2017 - 8:09pm
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I would like to add a piece of information that doesn't seem to show up anywhere else. The PT-486 Elco Hull Number is 3533.
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billpr
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Posted on: Aug 2, 2017 - 2:54pm
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Hello,
Well if they do make the S.O.S. PT109 movie, here's one for in the leading role!
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TED WALTHER |
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Posted on: Aug 2, 2017 - 8:39pm
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Gerry;
The complete list of 80' ELCO hull numbers is in ALLIED COASTAL FORCES VOL II
by John Lambert and Al Ross II.
For example : PT 486 as you stated was ELCO Hull Number 3533. PT 557 is/was ELCO Hull Number 3326.
PT 557 keel was laid on 3 JUL 43, launched on 18 SEP 43 and was placed in service with RON 29 on 30 OCT 43.
PT 486 keel was laid 27 JUL 43, launched on 16 OCT 43 and was placed in service with RON 4 on 2 DEC 43.
So as you can see the hull numbers were not always in sequential order with the USN PT hull number. It really gets crazy from 731-760 because all their ELCO hull numbers are before the 565 series. Example: PT 760 is 3622 and PT 565 is 3623
Take care,
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