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Jeff D

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Another shot of the clear grips:




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Regarding clear plastic helm grips.

Thank you for the greeting Dick.

Hello Jeff: I don't really know too much about the clear handgrips. The helm in our collection was the only one I had seen until Al posted the bridge panel images. I was really glad to see the images, as it is the first clue to obtaining any background history pertaining to the helm in our collection. I can not imagine any benefit to using the clear plastic verses the dark Bakelite as the clear plastic might create some light reflection.

Hi Al: Any info you can come up with regarding the unique helm will be appreciated. Thanks for posting the great photos.

Don Shannon


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It would seem to me that as Don had mentioned, there really was no advantage to the clear handles. As Elco used many outside sources for key parts, we do know that shortages or delay's in shipping parts did occur. This was one reason Elco used several suppliers for thier parts. What was not manufactured by Elco on site was simply shipped. This was one reason why you would see several different Company names on guages in the engine room or helm. Wesson was one supplier for guages, but remember, these outside sources were shipping parts all over the United States, not just Elco. If one main supplier of parts were running low, Elco simply used another supplier.

This would make sence on the handle gribs or wheels. Maybe they were short of bakelight handles, or possibly another supplier provided the cear grip handles. I don't think, in my opinion that this was done for any other reason. Simply put, Elco used many outside sources for parts, and although Elco and Navy specs called for certain things, they would use what was available. Slight differences in equipment did happen.


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Hi Jeff,
In your latest picture showing the clear grips I notice an Asian naval
officer on board. As far as I know no Asian served on board PT
boats. Can you furnish me with any background of this picture?
Thanks.
Victor

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Hi Victor,
Jeff D posted in the other link called "DoD Hi Res Images", a whole lot more of these images and this one along with a few others show when the US Navy sold/gave 4 Elco PT boats to the ROK Navy in the early 1950's. One shot shows a 5 inch rocket launch from the PT Boat. So you are right those are not US Navy Officers they are ROK Navy Officers. The Admiral at the helm of the boat in the photo is listed as V.Adm. Won IL Sohn, ROKN, who accepted the vessels from U.S. Naval authorities in Sasebo, Japan 1-24-1952

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Hi Jess,
After I put on my glasses I noticed the cap insignia is not of the US Navy.
That explains everything. Great pictures neverthless.
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