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 Author  Topic: REVELL'S REISSUED HIGGIN'S PT 212
Dick

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Hi gang . . .

I though I would add my two and half cents.

Until seeing Jerry's photo of the Higgins model in discussion, I wasn't aware how simplistic the model really was. I must say accuracy or refinement clearly wasn’t the goal of the model designers. It reminds me of Frank’s Cartoon covers, where the artist really wasn’t sure exactly how the boat looked, other then seeing some eight generation photo copy of a newspaper article. Even as bad as this 212 model is we have to consider the availability and cost of technology back 40 years ago when the models such as this and the 109 were first molded. Whereas the technology and refined plastic compounds and injection systems used by Italeri today. Also, probably more importantly is the $15.00 vs $150.00 price tags. Let’s not forget that comparisons are really the issue – a toy verses a model.

I think Revel has always been lose and fast with numbers and that is clear with the choice of PT-212. It reminds me of a model a neighbor made a few years ago. He called me over to show me a PT boat model that wasn’t PT-109 it was Revel’s PT-117. As he tore away the cellophane, removed the box lid, and began taking out parts, I saw a piece of the boat stand on he bottom of the box and molded in the plastic stand cross piece was the number PT-109 – but, but, but, they included the proper size PT-117 decal that would completely cover the PT-109 molded letters – now that’s a scam.

Back to the 212, Al Ross had given a link to a drawing that showed the typical configuration for PT Series 71-94, 197-254, and 265-313. After a quick look you will notice the Chart House & Bridge configuration does not match the model. The model is actually configured as the Class PT 450-485 with the extended bridge area with short canted sidewalls between the chart house structure and the gun tubs. Whereas the actual 212’s gun tubs directly contact the chart house structure. See image below:

Dick . . . .






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  Wayne Traxel

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Yeah, kind of like having Revell of Germany's British MTB featuring McHale, Parker, Binghamton, and Gruber as crew members.

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CJ Willis

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I have one of these kits which I put together and camouflage painted similiar to my memory of the 242. I have it displayed in my office. I recognize many discrepancies from the model and the boat I rode but my grand kids and other people who view the boat don't know the difference. I am just happy to find a facsimile of a Higgins boat. I am no modeler so for my use it does not have to exact. I just wish some one would make a 1/32 scale model of a Higgins.

C. J. Willis

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Will Day

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Amen, C.J.

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  FRANK

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Hi Ya Dick-

You are one amazing critter, Dick! I gotta thank you for those fantastic drawings of the Higgins 78 footer in the different configs. Beautiful job!

Frank Ryczek,Jr.
Modeler Friend PT-169 RON-10 "ZEBRA SNAFU "



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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Frank

FEMU Photos will be coming soon. I just took down the Diorama as it was in storage and hard to reach. I have boxes of PT BOAT artifacts that I had to move (Whew, never knew I had so much stuff). Diorama is on my Kitchen table, with the Wife giving me the evil eye. I will remove the cover and snap some non pro photos. Will post on the board when I get time.............


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  FRANK

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of FRANK  Posted on: Feb 21, 2009 - 7:47am
Hello Frank-

I just wanted to say "THANKS" for all the trouble I'm putting you thriugh for just a few shots of the FEMU. I'd like to replicate a FEMU unit in 1/32 nd scale for my Tulagi diorama. I'd like to go the extra step and make it radio controlled.I know that the FEMU unit were propelled by what a 6 horse propullsion system of sorts? I just what this thing to creap along! I think it would look neat on the old model pond!

I just want to say here and now that I really appriciate all the help and responses I have gotten from the message board regarding this posting and all those in the past. Frank you are doing fantastic service by putting up this board and everyone here who has responded to the postings as well.

I'm going to be "out of pocket" for about 6 weeks or so folks! Yep, it's time for my other knee total replacement operation on Feb. 24th. I've put it off tooooooo long and it needs to be taken care of. I've had the left done last Jan. of '08 and it was fine for a while but now I've got bursitis in the left knee area now. I can't win for loosing! I get on as soon as I get back from my re-hab! Thanks for everything guys! I'll be thinking about you all!

Frank Ryczek, Jr.
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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Frank

Just a correction in one of your sentances. I do not put up the Board. This is done by Dick Washicheck who should be thanked much more then he is. I only put things on the Board that I think might interest all of us PT BOAT nuts. Thanks for the kind words Frank. Your doing a FEMU in 1/32 scale will be pretty large. I hope you have a spot for it (ha, ha).

I have taken the pictures and will put them up when I get some free time. Hope your knees will get better. I know that I need both done as well and keep putting it off because I am too young (52). That's what I get for playing College Football. They are full of arthritis and I can't walk too far before I have to get off them. Oh well, back to your project. I hope these photos will help you, but if not I think I have some shots of the FEMU in my collection. Good luck on your new project, and my hats off to you on your new award at the show. Hard work does pay off............


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MicroGlass (www.microglass.net) makes a nice 1/32 scale fiberglass Higgins hull. Our friend Wayne Traxel makes a nice 1/24 scale semi kit of the Higgins, as well.

Al Ross



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Yes, but Al m'friend?

We NEED a good 1:72 scale one, right?


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