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[StartQuote] Swasey's statement is a direct quote from his contemporary monograph on ELCO camouflage. On page 121 of his U.S. PATROL TORPEDO BOATS IN WORLD WAR II, Garth cites this document and provides a supposed quote from it, so apparently he has/had access to it. I could not find that passage in my copy of the material. Interestingly, on pages 111-112, Garth writes: ...PT196, prior to her shipment, was painted in a modified application of Measure 14 with wavy lines painted down the length of her hull of Haze Gray (5-H) with a shark's mouth painted on her bow with two eyes. This paint job was superseded by the application of the colors of Measure 31/5P... For those unfamiliar with Measure 14, all vertical surfaces are Ocean Gray (5-O). The photos of 196 with the shark's mouth motif were taken in the States, most likely before she was handed over to the USN. Note the ELCO burgee on the mast and the workers in civilian clothes in this photo: [IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/196_0001.jpg[/IMaGe] As Jeff noted, the 196 was used as a test bed for a variety of items, including the slipper tank, the enlarged engine room hatch, and the abortive lightweight ELCO 20mm mount. [IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/196_0002.jpg[/IMaGe] [IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/196_0003.jpg[/IMaGe] So, we have primary documentation in the form of: a. written statements from a person directly involved with the development of the color scheme b. photos showing the boat in that scheme prior to delivery to the USN Perhaps Garth can provide some equally credible primary documentation that this scheme was repeated in greens? Al Ross [EndQuote]
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